Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Fabian Tompsett
Hi Jane, Thanks for that. My guesses maybe wrong, but that does not mean my logic is flawed. My point was precisely that different language Wikipedias will have their own characteristics, and that it is precisely because, as we agree, Welsh wikimedians also read English wikipedia that I made my

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own On Thu, Jan

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24: As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that this is not easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced the other widget, of course. I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have been

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Robin Owain
Exactly, Fabian. We constantly adapt articles from Eng as well as 'local' wiki languages. For example the Gaudi article on cywiki is around 65% en; 30% ca and 5% external websites. Great work happening with the Content Translation Tool; just wish cy could have piloted it! The rich weave of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Amir E. Aharoni, 29/01/2015 02:42: My dream solution for some of those issues with integration of Wikipedia and Wikidata is letting people edit Wikidata without leaving Wikipedia (or Wikivoyage, or whatever).

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/01/2015 02:42: My dream solution for some of those issues with integration of Wikipedia and Wikidata is letting people edit Wikidata without leaving Wikipedia (or Wikivoyage, or whatever). This is not quite a dream, for sitelinks. We already have an in-place dialog for

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 29.01.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a link to the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove links, until such a feature is added to the dialog itself. As far as I recall, there is some very

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
A link to Reasonator would be more useful probably, or at at least offering that as a choice along with the message no sitelinks found On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 29.01.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): This should be very

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Fabian Tompsett
I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own mmm, an interesting perspective, but do we

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Great to hear about the collaboration between Wikipedias :) I do not use those buttons imho it is not worth it It is quicker doing it all from Wikidata for me. Thanks, GerardM On 29 January 2015 at 12:49, Robin Owain robin.ow...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Exactly, Fabian. We constantly

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
I do think we are in agreement, as we both wish for more data. I would be very interested in any survey results the Welsh community may have. In my comment about your logic, I was referring to your comment that size matters, because I think size is not at issue here. The true issue is the language

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi Fabian, I think your logic is flawed, as I believe most of the Welsh contributors probably also read the English Wikipedia. This will be true for many languages that are closely related, such as Dutch and Afrikaans, but there is much less cross reading between English and languages that are