Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-12 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 11.03.2015 15:31, Magnus Manske wrote: I can offer https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/ This (or a future successor) could serve as the list keeper for, say, list of lighthouses, or graded buildings in the UK. One thing that IMHO would be required for this to work would be a

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-12 Thread Michael Stoner
On 11 Mar 2015, at 09:37, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: No, you are right: this is of course an issue in the completeness of our data. If you zoom

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 10.03.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Yaroslav M. Blanter: Hi Amir, anything which can be remotely considered as a tourist attraction, as well as shops, hotels, reataurants and such are withing the scope of Wikivoyage and thus of Wikidata. For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all

[Wikidata-l] input for improving integration of Wikidata in watchlists needed

2015-03-12 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey folks :) Data quality and trust is what we're currently concentrating on in the development around Wikidata. A big part of that is improving the integration of Wikidata in the watchlist of Wikipedia and other sister projects. I just opened a page to collect input on how we can improve it.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Mechanically generated names by transliteration bots or by direct word for word translation (depending on the custom generally used in the target language) may well be appropriate in many cases Remember that I'm talking about place names, rather than other types of names. Within that scope, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew Gray
Thanks both. I'll try hacking out an aggregated list tonight and send the link around, but for now if there's anything you know for sure we cover comprehensively, fire away with your suggestions :-) Mix-and-match was in the back of my head, as it has a nice example of all three groups: * Already

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew Gray
Here's a very rough first attempt: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Comprehensive_groups_of_items The main problem is that other than the areas I've been working in, I really don't know what's out there :-). Does the Wiki Loves Monuments work mean that we have complete monument coverage in

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 12.03.2015 um 10:03 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, What would you do with the many, many Chinese place names in Wikidata where we have nothing but Chinese ? It is completely useless to me in this way. A good transliterations works for me. Like most people beyond that I do not care much

Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Sure, tonight it will be done. Best On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com wrote: I'm ready for it! All existing humans on nlwiki have a gender now, so it's easy to review this batch. Bring it on. Op 11 mrt. 2015, om 22:14 heeft Maarten Dammers

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-discussion] [Dbpedia-developers] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Your description sounds quite close to what we had in mind. The high level group is manifesting quite well, the domain groups are planned as pilots for selected domains (e.g. Law or Mobility). I lost a bit the overview on the data classification. We might auto-link or crowdsource. I

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-discussion] [Dbpedia-developers] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread John Flynn
This is a very ambitious, but commendable, goal. To map all data on the web to the DBpedia ontology is a huge undertaking that will take many years of effort. However, if it can be accomplished the potential payoff is also huge and could result in the realization of a true Semantic Web. Just as

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Joe Filceolaire
I agree that word for word translations are not appropriate for English. If there are languages which traditionally do use word for word then that might be appropriate for those languages On 12 Mar 2015 10:24, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 12.03.2015 um 10:03 schrieb

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Ricordisamoa
I completely forgot we already had the excellent transliteration gadget https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-SimpleTransliterate.js by Ebraminio https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ebraminio. Just made a rough patch

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Serge, The short answer to this is that the purpose of aliases in Wikidata is to help searching for items, and nothing more. Aliases may include nicknames that are in no way official, and abbreviations that are not valid if used in another context. Therefore, they seem to be a poor source

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 10.03.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Luca Martinelli: 2015-03-10 16:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: What would this new Wikibase have that OpenStreetMap doesn't already have? The possibility of talking with WMF projects, as Wikidata talks with all the other projects... Only if it's