Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Daniel's answer fits exactly with the proposal (which is unsurprising, because he reviewed and certainly influenced it). To make it clear again: the proposal on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Development/Proposals/2015-05 is a proposal for the tasks that need to be performed.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
is clear now. Thanks for your engagement! Denny On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel's answer fits exactly with the proposal (which is unsurprising, because he reviewed and certainly influenced it). To make it clear again: the proposal on https

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
this. It is the grand daddy of Wikidata and it does combine everything you would want as far as lexical data is concerned. Thanks, GerardM On 8 May 2015 at 18:18, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: I very much agree with Lydia and Nemo that there should not be a separate Wikibase

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
on the level of the label, it does not make sense to have Wiktionary included in Wikidata. Thanks, GerardM On 8 May 2015 at 06:19, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: I would disagree with requiring the Wiktionary communities to change their ways. Instead we should adapt our plans

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I mean, the lexical data in Wikidata according to the proposal would allow for statements on Lexemes and Forms. I slipped into the future for a moment ;) On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure I understand what you are saying. The lexical data

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would disagree with requiring the Wiktionary communities to change their ways. Instead we should adapt our plans to fit into the way they are set up. Even if the English Wiktionary community would change to have per-language pages instead of the current system, it would be rather unlikely that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: It is rather clear that everyone wants Wikidata to also support Wiktionary, and there have been plenty of proposals in the last few years. I think that the latest proposals are sufficiently similar to go for the next step: a break down of the tasks needed

Re: [Wikidata-l] novalue in qualifiers or references

2015-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Actually I think that having no value for the end date qualifier probably means that it has not ended yet. There is no other way to express whether this information is currently merely incomplete (i.e. it has ended, but no one bothered to fill it in) or not (i.e. it has not ended yet). This is

Re: [Wikidata-l] World's largest cities with a female mayor :-)

2015-04-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This is seriously awesome! Thank you! On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:18 PM Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi all, For many years, Denny and I have been giving talks about why we need to improve the data management in Wikipedia. To explain and motivate this, we have often

[Wikidata-l] Initial release of the primary sources tool

2015-04-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I am happy to let you know about the initial release of the primary sources tool. More info is available here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Primary_sources_tool The release is meant to facilitate your feedback. There are probably plenty of things that should be fixed before the tool

Re: [Wikidata-l] ViziData

2015-02-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Any time property or the birth date property, specifically? On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 10:58:09 AM Maximilian Klein isa...@gmail.com wrote: Next research question: {q | instance_of(i, q) and has_time_property(i) and has_geo_property(i)} In this case we know humans (q5) are things that have time

Re: [Wikidata-l] Call for development openness

2015-02-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
hurtful and dismissive of each other? We have a great project, riding an amazing wave, and there's too much for each one of us to do to afford to hurt each other and make this a place less nice than it could be. On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 1:44:53 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote

Re: [Wikidata-l] Call for development openness

2015-02-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Regarding Paul's comment: I first heard about Wikidata at SemTech in San Francisco and I was told very directly that they were not interested in working with anybody who was experienced with putting data from generic database in front of users because they had worked so hard to get academic

Re: [Wikidata-l] Call for development openness

2015-02-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Also, the problem most SPARQL backend developers worried about was not Wikidata's size, but it's dynamicity. Not the number of triples, but the frequency of edits. And we did talk to many of those people. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, 07:05 Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi Paul,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata CACM article (Was: Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata)

2015-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
by Denny Vrandečić and Markus Krötzsch. This is a very helpful article that in my opinion should be featured on the Wikidata main page. Glad you liked it. Checking the Wikidata item, I notice that it is actually Open Access and not all rights reserved. It is available for free (forever) from

Re: [Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2015-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Knowledgebase article [1] written by Denny Vrandečić and Markus Krötzsch. This is a very helpful article that in my opinion should be featured on the Wikidata main page. [1] http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2014/10/178785-wikidata/fulltext Regards, James Weaver On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, at 05:14 PM

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Mediawiki-api] Freebase like API with an OUTPUT feature ?

2015-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Actually, since Wikidata allows now properties on properties, one might easily create an item Disambiguating property and then make a claim instance of - Disambiguating property on the relevant property. there is no need for any extra implementation work. On Wed Jan 07 2015 at 9:48:32 AM Thad

[Wikidata-l] Conflict of Interest policy for Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I found out the other day that there's an item about myself, and I wanted to edit it, and got a weird feeling about it. So I raised the question on the project chat https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#COI_and_editing and got told that an RFC would be a good idea. So I tried one.

Re: [Wikidata-l] How to declare a property is transitive, etc.

2014-12-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
In OWL this is done through instance of (i.e. rdf:type) pointing at a Transitive Property class (owl:TransitiveProperty). So the most similar representation of that in Wikidata would be to have an item for transitive property, and make an instance of: transitive property statement on the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Tool for adding references and data to Wikidata

2014-12-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Gerard, I very much agree. It would be very good to have a discussion on which kind of data can be integrated in which way. One way or the other, one of the most frequent criticisms of Wikidata is a lack of references, which this tool will tackle on the way as well. And at the same time it

Re: [Wikidata-l] sneak peek time - checking against 3rd party databases

2014-12-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
wohoo. that's pretty awesome! congrats. Are they going to use the soon-to-be-available property mapping properties? On Tue Dec 02 2014 at 1:33:38 PM Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) The student team working on data quality and trust is hard at work and just

Re: [Wikidata-l] Various questions

2014-11-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:08 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote: +1 for removing the blacklist from the code. On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad jeb...@gmail.com wrote: What did I say, etc, etc, etc... It feels good to be right. I was right. Me. I and myself

Re: [Wikidata-l] Various questions

2014-11-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:32 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote: On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:08 PM Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote: +1 for removing the blacklist from the code. On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad jeb...@gmail.com wrote: What did I

[Wikidata-l] Birthday gift: Missing Wikipedia links (was Re: Wikidata turns two!)

2014-10-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Folks, as you know, many Googlers are huge fans of Wikipedia. So here’s a little gift for Wikidata’s second birthday. Some of my smart colleagues at Google have run a few heuristics and algorithms in order to discover Wikipedia articles in different languages about the same topic which are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Birthday gift: Missing Wikipedia links (was Re: Wikidata turns two!)

2014-10-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Sure, you can keep all your todos with Google ;) https://www.gmail.com/mail/help/tasks/ Cheers, Denny On Wed Oct 29 2014 at 2:58:03 PM Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Does this mean we can also shoot a TODO list in the direction of Google? :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw

Re: [Wikidata-l] Super Lachaise, a mobile app based on Wikidata

2014-10-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's a great idea! Just curious, for such a specific use case, why did you go for an App instead of a Website? On Tue Oct 28 2014 at 7:29:22 AM Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com wrote: Not available in the Dutch iTunes Store... Op 28 okt. 2014 om 15:26 heeft Pierre-Yves Beaudouin

Re: [Wikidata-l] Open Data Awards

2014-10-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Yay! Congratulations! On Mon Oct 27 2014 at 4:55:51 PM John Lewis johnflewi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Some exciting news here. The Open Data Awards' finalists lists were recently published on their website. Wikidata has been listed as a finalist in two different categories which are

Re: [Wikidata-l] all human genes are now wikidata items

2014-10-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wow! That's pretty cool work! Do you have any plans to keep the data fresh? On Mon Oct 06 2014 at 1:22:12 PM Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com wrote: I thought folks might like to know that every human gene (according to the United States National Center for Biotechnology Information)

Re: [Wikidata-l] How can I increase the throughput of ProteinBoxBot?

2014-09-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's very cool! To get an idea, how big is your dataset? On Tue Sep 30 2014 at 12:06:56 PM Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: What makes it so slow? Note that you can use wbeditentity to perform complex edits with a single api call. It's not as streight forward to use as,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Item both subclass and instance?

2014-09-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Fully agree with Markus' beautifully written explanation, although I am not completely convinced of the level theory - but it seems to work in the given examples, and a few other examples I was thinking through. Note that Porsche 356 could very much be an instance of car model - but not of car.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Item both subclass and instance?

2014-09-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Fully agree with Markus' beautifully written explanation, although I am not completely convinced of the level theory - but it seems to work in the given examples. Note that Porsche 356 could very much be an instance of car model - but not of car. All the rules that Markus has mentioned would stay

Re: [Wikidata-l] policy toward using non-CC0 licensed external databases a

2014-09-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Sep 13, 2014 3:20 PM, P. Blissenbach pu...@web.de wrote: Regarding purely factual data comprising a less than significant portion of a database - which is certainly true for all ISBNs in Googles databas Btw. if a statement about an ISBN is sourced, among ohers, with Source: Google, that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Language mappings between different wikipedia pages

2014-07-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey Marieke, You can either use the Wikidata toolkit by Markus Krötzsch, if you want to work on the dump, or the Wikidata web API, if you only need a few such mappings at a time. On Jul 17, 2014 9:24 AM, Erp, M.G.J. van marieke.van@vu.nl wrote: Hi there, I was wondering how to get the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

2014-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Markus, On Wed Apr 09 2014 at 4:18:50 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Change to the directory of the example module (wdtk-examples), then run: mvn exec:java -Dexec.mainClass=org.wikidata.wdtk.examples.DumpProcessingExample Thanks, that is exactly what I needed!

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

2014-04-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I was trying to use this, but my Java is a bit rusty. How do I run the DumpProcessingExample? I did the following steps: git clone https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit cd Wikidata-Toolkit mvn install mvn test Now, how do I start DumpProcessingExample? Sorry for being a bit dense here.

Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel

2014-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's a toughie. Looking forward to see that one resolved :) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: On 1 April 2014 20:01, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@google.com wrote: a bug on the github project I've raised another, about the use of adjectives

Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel

2014-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
visitors of a given page in a given language would hit the same cache entry. That seems workable. Anyway, we are not there quite yet, just something to ponder :) -- daniel Am 01.04.2014 20:14, schrieb Denny Vrandečić: I just published qLabel, an Open Source jQuery plugin that allows

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata for organizing 1000s of extensions in mediawiki.org?

2014-03-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would very strongly recommend to use Semantic MediaWiki for this use case. It is more powerful, we use SMW in other WMF contexts already, and supporting the data inside Meta (instead of inside Wikidata and then transcluding it) allows us also to generate workflows in Meta involving local

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
it is worth start presenting the concepts/options now. Besides, ideas and a common understanding take time to develop, and the RFC was started, so I thought it was worth giving it some attention. Cheers, Micru On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.comwrote: Since

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata labels are simple. This is due to the necessities of the project. We need one single label to display. Having Wikidata labels with ranks, qualifieres, sources, etc. simply would not work in the UI. Labels and names in reality are indeed extremely complex. But as already pointed out, this

[Wikidata-l] Status PropertySuggester

2014-01-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Welcome to Wikidata! I am very much looking forward to see the results of your work. The demo looks very promising and the results are already so much better than what we currently have. And also the answers are very fast, which is promising. Awesome work, and welcome! On Thu Jan 09 2014 at

Re: [Wikidata-l] How are queries doing?

2014-01-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The main reason why Queries are not done yet is because in the beginning of 2013 I deprioritized them compared to the original plan. Only a single developer kept working on them, instead of a major part of the team, as was originally planned. I made this decision because it became clear to me

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikisource-l] DNB 11M bibliographic records as CC0

2013-12-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thanks for reviving this thread, Luiz. I also wanted to ask whether we should be updating parts of DNB and similar data. Maybe not create new entries, but for those that we already have, add some of the available data and point to the DNB dataset? On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Luiz Augusto

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It is either obvious that they should be entering only integers or positive numbers, in which case such feedback isn't helpful, or it might end up being too restrictive again. Who tells me that a system like this won't get used in order to force cities to have a population of an integer bigger

Re: [Wikidata-l] quantities datatype available for testing

2013-11-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Fr 22.11.2013 21:56, schrieb Denny Vrandečić: It is either obvious that they should be entering only integers or positive numbers, in which case such feedback isn't helpful, or it might end up being too restrictive again. Who tells me that a system like this won't get used in order to force

Re: [Wikidata-l] Questions about statement qualifiers

2013-11-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hello Antoine, just to add to what was already said: a Qualifier in Wikidata is not a statement about a statement. In RDF semantics, the pattern that we follow is not the reification of the triple and then to make triples with the reified triple as a subject, as per

Re: [Wikidata-l] creator template, wikimedia commons

2013-09-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This is completely up to the community, whether they want this data and the necessary structures for it. It really depends on the scope of the dataset. But here it is the same: there is no way to use this data in short-term for the metadata in Commons. This will be possible in a few months, if you

Re: [Wikidata-l] Counting sitelinks of subclasses.

2013-09-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would be surprised if that theory held true. I expect that both very abstract (fruit) and extremely specific (golden delicious) items would have a lower sitelink count than the golden layer of most useful terms (apple) in the hierarchy (I am reminded of the theory of word length and term

Re: [Wikidata-l] test.wikidata.org offers URL datatype now

2013-09-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
/**wiki/Q133https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q133 cheers Finn Årup Nielsen On 09/06/2013 12:10 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Hello all, in preparation of next week's deployment to Wikidata.org, test.wikidata.org http://test.wikidata.org now has the new datatype URL deployed. If you have

Re: [Wikidata-l] The Day the Knowledge Graph Exploded

2013-08-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just a few corrections to the historical dates given by Tom. 2013/8/23 Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com In a word, no. Google acquired Metaweb, the company that built Freebase, which forms the core of the Knowledge Graph in 2010. Metaweb was founded in 2005 (interesting Google search: Metaweb

Re: [Wikidata-l] The Day the Knowledge Graph Exploded

2013-08-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Oh, that's a clear and loud I have no idea :) 2013/8/23 Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: I understand Michael's question to be much more concrete: does the progress in Wikidata has anything to do

Re: [Wikidata-l] Make Commons a wikidata client

2013-08-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Maarten, thanks. That's the best proposal I have seen so far in how to proceed with Phase 1 on Commons. I usually had pushed Commons support further to the back, but with this I think we would indeed create some real value with a small change. I will bounce Commons Phase 1 client support up on

Re: [Wikidata-l] Help on adding a not exact date

2013-08-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This doesn't really work yet in the UI. Basically, you could only enter sth like 6th c. BC which in this case would not be correct. 1st Millenium BC would be possible and correct, but it is a bit too wide. That's the only thing supported right now. We will be working on improving this situation.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Phase #3 deadline

2013-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Jan, we currently assume that we will have a first querying capability available this fall. The implementation has progressed very well in the last few months and weeks, including special pages to access it, API modules, etc. Indeed querying will be available later than originally anticipated

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
[Sorry for cross-posting] Yes, I agree that the OmegaWiki community should be involved in the discussions, and I pointed GerardM to our proposals whenever and discussions, using him as a liaison. We also looked and keep looking at the OmegaWiki data model to see what we are missing. Our latest

[Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata - Updated proposal

2013-08-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Following numerous discussions and after input from many people, we are happy to present the new version of the proposal that would lead to Wikidata supporting structured data for the Wiktionaries. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary I am very thankful to all those that provided

Re: [Wikidata-l] All interwikis from nl.wikivoyage have been moved to Wikidata

2013-07-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's amazing! And so fast! Any idea how many links there have been? (Just curious). Thanks for reporting! Denny 2013/7/29 Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com Hello all, I am happy to announce that all interwikis from all articles, templates, project pages (except some archive pages) have

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Map Interface

2013-07-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Jacobo, I hope you don't mind that I share the answer with the list. I think the answer to this question might be of general interest. the JavaScript creating the visualization in the browser is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/172199972/map/map.js As you can see it is just a

[Wikidata-l] Watson receives Feigenbaum Prize - Money donated to Wikimedia and Wikidata

2013-07-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The AAAI awards the Feigenbaum Prize to the Watson team, which decides to donate the prize money to the Wikimedia Foundation, explicitly listing Wikidata as a reason. When asked for a comment, Wikidata said: Q2013 P3 Q12253 . Congratulations to the Watson team and their stunning results! More

[Wikidata-l] 239 Million language links removed from the Wikipedias

2013-07-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
In June 2012 I ran an analysis to discover how many language links were on Wikipedia. Last week, I rerun the analysis again - and the results are stunning. Of the 240 Million language links, 239.2 Million have been removed so far. This is an amazing result by the community. Congratulations. Last

[Wikidata-l] Propagation of changes to the Wikipedias currently lagging

2013-07-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
copied from http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Propagation_of_changes_to_the_Wikipedias_currently_lagging Changes to Wikidata are currently propagated to the Wikipedias with a lag of several hours, but this should be fixed during the next few hours. The Dispatcher, who is

[Wikidata-l] A personal note, and a secret

2013-07-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
to continue to effectively further our goals towards a world where everyone has access to the sum of all knowledge. Sincerely, Denny Vrandečić -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Properties Search

2013-07-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Hady, use the MediaWiki API, like this: http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=allpagesformat=jsonapnamespace=120aplimit=10 You can list through all the results using http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=allpagesformat=jsonapnamespace=120aplimit=10apcontinue=P110

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata map visualization

2013-07-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi, the following displays geographical data from Wikidata: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/172199972/map/index.html It is updated daily, clickable, zoomable, and also can be used to display the connections between geographically located items. It also shows how much data is already in

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I just wanted to say thank you! That's truly amazing work. As far as I can tell, more than 200 Million lines of wikitext have so far been removed from the Wikipedias. That's 200 Million lines that do not have to maintained anymore. (I have not run the actual analysis yet, I have been waiting for

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
done this change. 2013/6/20 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de Thinking about it again, and discussing it internally, maybe we should replace word with expression and meaning with sense? Any +1's or differing opinions? 2013/6/20 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It was never intended to create a Wiktionary Database separate from Wikidata, but have it being a part of Wikidata. 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is in essence more than a basis for a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you, Sundar! 2013/6/20 BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com Hi Denny, I've left a message at the Tamil Wiktionary Village Pump.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
for Wordnet, especially how it connects synsets to Freebase topics: https://www.freebase.com/base/wordnet/synset?schema= Tom On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hello, I would like all interested in the interaction of Wikidata and Wiktionary

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
languages don't follow the same logic. On the other hand, do you think it would be possible to accommodate grammar rules too? I have added some people from Apertium that might have some insights about it. Cheers, Micru On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thinking about it again, and discussing it internally, maybe we should replace word with expression and meaning with sense? Any +1's or differing opinions? 2013/6/20 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de The current proposal does not cover grammar rules explicitly. If at all, I would

[Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hello, I would like all interested in the interaction of Wikidata and Wiktionary to take a look at the following proposal. It is trying to serve all use cases mentioned so far, and remain still fairly simple to implement. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary To the best of our

Re: [Wikidata-l] Visualisations of The Most Unique Wikipedias According to Wikidata

2013-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Can I have a statement about how much easier it would have been with Wikidata? :) 2013/6/13 Brent Hecht bhe...@cs.umn.edu Hi all, In my (recently finished) thesis, I looked at a lot of different properties (e.g. topic, centrality, popularity via pageviews) of common and unique concepts

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
with WordNet's license? Neil On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hello, I would like all interested in the interaction of Wikidata and Wiktionary to take a look at the following proposal. It is trying to serve all use cases mentioned so far

Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData change propagation for third parties

2013-04-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The third party propagation is not very high on our priority list. Not because it is not important, but because there are things that are even more important - like getting it to work for Wikipedia :) And this seems to be stabilizing. What we have, for now: * We have the broadcast of all edits

[Wikidata-l] Usage of Wikidata: the brilliance of Wikipedians

2013-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I am completely amazed by a particularly brilliant way that Wikipedia uses Wikidata. Instead of simply displaying the data from Wikidata and removing the local data, a template and workflow is proposed, which... * grabs the relevant data from Wikidata * compares it with the data given locally in

[Wikidata-l] Fwd: Updated GND dump available with links to DBpedia, Wikipedia and STW

2013-04-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Here's a set mapping GND IDs to German and English Wikipedia articles, for the authority control friends here. I didn't check if we have most of the mappings in Wikidata already, but maybe it is an interesting set. Cheers, Denny -- Forwarded message -- From: Hauser, Julia

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/7 Jianyong Zhang zhjy...@gmail.com On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: 2013/4/1 Jianyong Zhang zhjy...@gmail.com 1) It becomes redirect to another article, will Qx be changed in this scenario? I expect that if a Wikipedia article

[Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey all, I just got a warning from Ops that our log table is growing extremely fast. One write up by this is here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47415 Basically, a vast majority of edits on Wikidata are written to the log table as they are autopatrolled. And since we have a lot

Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one night!

2013-04-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey Dario, there is on simple fix we want to apply rather sooner than later, which is to use the number of language links for ranking. This should work rather well. The thing is that this is kinda hard to implement in MySQL, I figured, and that we would need to use something Lucene based

Re: [Wikidata-l] Page history and properties

2013-04-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This is in my opinion an upstream issue for MediaWiki proper. I do not think that templates and images from Commons are that different. Take this image for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Treaty_of_Accession_2011_Ratification_Map.svg It always reflects the current state of

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikidata queries

2013-04-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
end well. I am not even sure it is much more complicated. But I am very worried it is too different. Cheers, Denny Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] 2013/3/28 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: We have a first write up of how we plan to support queries in Wikidata. Comments

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
) can be added to what links here. Feel free to include back the distribution list in your reply if you see merits in this suggestion. Best Regards, Alex On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi Janyong, as Michael said, Wikidata does

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata queries

2013-03-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We have a first write up of how we plan to support queries in Wikidata. Comments on our errors and requests for clarifications are more than welcome. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Queries Cheers, Denny P.S.: unfortunately, no easter eggs inside. -- Project director

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Oh, I would please ask to wait another week or two, for us to have qualifiers. Maybe they can deal with some of these cases. We just got them demoed today, and they really look neat, so I am very convinced they will be there with the next update. 2013/3/27 Michael Hale hale.michael...@live.com

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the priority of qualifiers: very high. They are the next major UI feature to be deployed, and as far as I can tell from the progress of the team it looks like they

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We do have strong types, but only few of time: item, commons media, string, time, geo, URL. Government leader would not be a supported type. The exact list and details are here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Datatypes_and_their_Values Cheers, Denny 2013/3/21 Michael

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It really depends on your definitions :) Items are strongly typed as items. Any item can have any property. And only items can have properties. Time or geocoordinates, e.g., can not have properties. But yes, there is no forcing of properties onto any item, nor any restriction of usage of every

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Dario, two or three features are still missing to enable that (sorted in order we are probably going to deploy them): * qualifiers * the time datatype * statement ranks As soon as they are available, this can be modeled in a way that it can be useful for projects accessing the data. So,

Re: [Wikidata-l] question about Inclusion policy discussion

2013-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That is a tough question. We are pretty sure that we technically scale quite well, and there is no reason that the community should restrict itself out of technical reasons. If the number of item suddenly increases by one or two orders of magnitudes, we would probably meet a few hiccups on the

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There is currently a number of things going on re the future of Wiktionary. There is, for example, the suggestion to adopt OmegaWiki, which could potentially complicate a Wikibase-Solution in the future (but then again, structured data is often rather easy to transform):

Re: [Wikidata-l] One entity per page question

2013-03-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Yes, every Wikidata page is about one and exactly one entity. There cannot be two entities on one page. Bonny and Clyde is one entity, designing the pair of people. Bonny and Clyde each might also be one entity each, and there could be relevant connections between the three entities Bonny,

Re: [Wikidata-l] new code deployed on wikidata.org

2013-02-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Not yet. We're working on it, and it's the top new datatype on our list. 2013/2/19 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com Congratulations! Much more usable now! S... StringType? ;-) On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey :)

Re: [Wikidata-l] deployment on enwp delayed

2013-02-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We are still working on a postmortem. As of now, it seems there has been some serious memchached failures and some interplay with another software deployment. 2013/2/13 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com What were the issues in detail? 2013/2/12 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
You have examples of that? Did not happen to my edits (so far). 2013/2/13 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de Block them until they behave? 2013/2/13 Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info On 13/02/2013 21:01, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live

Re: [Wikidata-l] Complaint about the partial Phase II deployment

2013-02-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Sven, thank you for your honest opinion, and I know that you are not alone with it - but I also heard a lot of people express excitement and joy about the deployment, and based on the activity it seems that a lot of people like it. We consider ourselves happy to be part of an intelligent and

Re: [Wikidata-l] Bug Report for Q17 Japan - Cannot remove the extra language

2013-02-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I assume you mean the unability to remove the second Yen. This is... interesting. We have right now no idea what is going one. Investigating. Thank you for reporting, Denny 2013/2/6 Napoleon Tan napoleon@gmail.com I think the wikidata Item entry for Japan is corrupted. I cannot remove

Re: [Wikidata-l] first parts of phase 2 live on wikidata.org now

2013-02-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It is a feature. The reason for that is that in the Wikipedias when you access the data you can't use the property names otherwise - they have to be unique. So in order to be able to write {{#property:capital}}, the capital property needs to be unique (and a {{#property:p25}} we considered to be

Re: [Wikidata-l] Reification in Wikidata serialisation

2013-02-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We are reluctant, but open, to renaming it. But not to Fact. Statement has the nice ambiguous quality regarding its correctness which Fact lacks. On the other hand, the similarity to rdf:Statement is not merely syntactic, so I do not see too much of an issue here. 2013/2/1 Nicholas Humfrey

Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata stats (was: getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia)

2013-02-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
No, not by design. The design would be to have http://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Breck be an alias for http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q123803 but we didn't have yet the time to set this up properly. If anyone knows Apache well and has some time on their hands, please ping me on IRC. Right now, they

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