Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata map visualization

2013-07-09 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 09/07/13 14:28, Denny Vrandečić wrote: the following displays geographical data from Wikidata: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/172199972/map/index.html It is updated daily, clickable, zoomable, and also can be used to display the connections between geographically located items. It also

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposal for media meta data on Wikimedia Commons

2013-06-25 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Two quick questions, I'll use the list since they are technical. On 25/06/13 14:28, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Over the last year, we have seen some discussion about if and how Wikidata can be useful for Wikimedia Commons. One aspect of this is maintaining meta data as structured data. On behalf of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposal for media meta data on Wikimedia Commons

2013-06-25 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 25/06/13 15:04, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 25.06.2013 14:58, schrieb Nikola Smolenski: Do you think it would it be possible to have this data on the actual image page, where current page text would be just one of the items? In theory yes, but I think that would create more problems than

Re: [Wikidata-l] Usability flaws

2013-04-05 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 05/04/13 16:00, Lukas Benedix wrote: * when no text is available in the users language the statement section looks like this: http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/mejpee0fxi_(2013-04-05_15.34.41).png

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 11/03/13 14:52, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Personally, I regard Wiktionary as the third priority, following Wikipedia and Commons. A lot of the other projects -- like Wikivoyage or Wikisource -- can be served with only small changes to Wikidata as it is, but both Commons and Wiktionary would

Re: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia

2013-01-30 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 29/01/13 21:45, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: And until the Big Links Remove, if the bots don't re-add the removed links by force, that should be enough. They should not be doing that. Any well-behaving bot will get the list of links from the API and not by parsing the article text. And the list

Re: [Wikidata-l] Phase 1

2013-01-29 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 29/01/13 10:02, Magnus Manske wrote: Why not just block the bots on wikis that use wikidata? Bots are used for much more than interwiki handling. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com mailto:wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/28 Amir Ladsgroup

Re: [Wikidata-l] Phase 1

2013-01-29 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 29/01/13 10:28, Magnus Manske wrote: So are the same bots doing different things? I seem to remember there was one giant toolserver pybot instance doing only interwiki. OTOH, yes, I believe there are bots doing only interwikis that could probably be blocked. But isn't anyone from Hungarian

Re: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia

2013-01-28 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 28/01/13 15:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Is anyone interested in getting us some stats for the deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia? There is a database dump at http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html from the 22nd of January that could be used. I'm interested in the effect Wikidata had

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 08/01/13 12:36, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Location: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values#Geolocation I'm not sure if we should be going that far, but there may be cases where longitude and latitude are known with different degree of accuracy, so multiple

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 19/12/12 12:23, Daniel Kinzler wrote: On 19.12.2012 08:34, Nikola Smolenski wrote: What I wanted to say. Additionally, in some cases historical units are not accurate or accurately known, so possibly we won't even be able to make the conversion. I don't think we can sensibly support

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 19/12/12 15:33, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 19/12/12 12:23, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I don't think we can sensibly support historical units with unknown conversions, because they cannot be compared directly to SI units. So, they couldn't be used to answer queries, can't be converted for display

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 19/12/12 15:23, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: triplestore design as well as XSD datatypes. What's next, WikiQL instead of SPARQL? How did you guessed? Oo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 18/12/12 16:52, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Thank you for your comments, Marco. 2012/12/18 Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at mailto:marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at IMHO it would be make sense to have something hybrid. The datatype for geolocation should accept something like a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Link FA/GA

2012-12-03 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 01/12/12 20:17, Bináris wrote: Can or will Wikidata handle Link FA / Link GA? Or will the Wikipedias handle it in the old way? Will that fit into the system? Right now, the Wikipedias are able to handle it in the old way. It is planned that in the future Wikidata will include information

Re: [Wikidata-l] changing wikidata-item properties with multilingual labels

2012-08-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/08/12 22:57, Gregor Hagedorn wrote: I would prefer if the decision whether entity-identity is known or whether only a name-string or other label is known, should be left to the Wikidata editor community, and not prescribed by the software. I'm afraid that this will not be really possible

Re: [Wikidata-l] changing wikidata-item properties with multilingual labels

2012-08-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 15/08/12 15:03, Gregor Hagedorn wrote: Basically what Daniel proposed is, that it would be best practice that for every string that refers to a concept, event, thing, person, unless the editor is certain about item identity, a new wikidata item entity should be created. I could imagine this

Re: [Wikidata-l] watching Wikidata changes that affect my wiki

2012-08-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/08/12 08:57, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs: I believe it should be possible to alleviate this problem to an extent by introducing automatic transcription between languages and specifying what language the mayor's default name is in. If automatic

Re: [Wikidata-l] watching Wikidata changes that affect my wiki

2012-08-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/08/12 09:28, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs: On 14/08/12 08:57, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs: I believe it should be possible to alleviate this problem to an extent by introducing automatic transcription between

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/06/12 00:39, jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: Transclusion is surely fundamental to wiki application design. The [[wikidata]] proposal by contrast is a client-server API, such things an artifact of the 20th century. What is the point of it here? Ultimately the problem you're grappling with

Re: [Wikidata-l] Forwarded from Wikidata-test-client

2012-06-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 08/06/12 21:52, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Friedrich Röhrs f.roe...@mis.uni-saarland.de wrote: is there any way to find the correspoding page on the repo (http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/) for a page on the client

Re: [Wikidata-l] Request for comments: syntax for including data on client wikis (aka how to make infoboxes)

2012-05-22 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 22/05/12 13:47, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I have created a first preliminary draft of how data items from the Wikidata repository may be accessed and rendered on the client wiki, e.g. to make infoboxes. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax It would be great if you

Re: [Wikidata-l] We have a demosystem

2012-05-21 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 21/05/12 13:18, Jan Kučera wrote: Are there some docs describing client-syntax etc. (eg. how it actually works)? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikibaseClient#Usage smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData/Scrum Item #47 (was: Re: Forward of moderated message)

2012-04-30 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 21:43 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote: So far the discussion is about interwiki links in a Wikipedia context. There are however interwiki links in a Wiktionary context as well. They are often linked from Wikipedia and they often have information in languages we do not have