On 20.02.2015 22:44, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
Regarding Paul's comment:
>>>
I first heard about Wikidata at SemTech in San Francisco and I was told
very directly that they were not interested in working with anybody who
was experienced with putting data from generic database in front of
users bec
On 20.02.2015 17:58, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Obviously you forgot about OmegaWiki. It can still do things Wikidata is
incapable of.
I will never forget OmegaWiki. It has a firm place in the history of
Wikidata. Experiences with OmegaWiki have directly influenced Wikidata
through our conve
Also, Gerard - you are one to quickly chide others for not being
constructive in their criticism, and I very much appreciate you doing so.
I would like to ask you to reconsider whether your contribution to this
thread meets your own threshold for being constructive.
Can we please stop being hur
Regarding Paul's comment:
>>>
I first heard about Wikidata at SemTech in San Francisco and I was told
very directly that they were not interested in working with anybody who was
experienced with putting data from generic database in front of users
because they had worked so hard to get academic po
Hi Paul!
I understand your frustration, but let me put a few things into perspective.
For reference: I'm employed by WMDE and work on wikibase/wikidata. I have been
working on MediaWiki since 2005, and am being payed for it since 2008.
Am 20.02.2015 um 19:14 schrieb Paul Houle:
> I am not an aca
Paul,
My background in computing is in mini mainframes. I know about huge
databases. I had my own organisation and it was involved in what started as
"Ultimate Wiktionary", it became "OmegaWiki" and I am proud of it.
I understand your frustration. When I look at Wikidata and how it is
presented.
Gerard,
I should probably keep my mouth shut about this but I am so offended
but what you say that I am not.
I am not an academic. The people behind Wikidata are.
I am a professional programmer who has spent a lot of time being the guy
who finishes what other people started; I typically co
Hoi,
Obviously you forgot about OmegaWiki. It can still do things Wikidata is
incapable of.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 20 February 2015 at 17:21, Markus Kroetzsch <
markus.kroetz...@tu-dresden.de> wrote:
> Dear Gerard:
>
> ...
>
>> This is the essence of Wikidata. After that we can all complain ab
Dear Gerard:
...
This is the essence of Wikidata. After that we can all complain about
the fallacies of Wikidata.. I have my pet pieves and it is not your RDF
SPARQL and stuff. That is mostly stuff for academics and it its use is
largely academic and not useful on the level where I want progress
Hoi,
I have waited for some time to reply. FIrst of all. Wikidata is not your
average data repository. It would not be as relevant as it is if it were
not for the fact that it links Wikipedia articles of any language to
statements on items.
This is the essence of Wikidata. After that we can all co
Also, the problem most SPARQL backend developers worried about was not
Wikidata's size, but it's dynamicity. Not the number of triples, but the
frequency of edits. And we did talk to many of those people.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, 07:05 Markus Krötzsch
wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Re RDF*/SPARQL*: could yo
Hi Paul,
Re RDF*/SPARQL*: could you send a link? Someone has really made an
effort to find the least googleable terminology here ;-)
Re relying on standards: I think this argument is missing the point. If
you look at what developers in Wikidata are concerned with, it is +90%
interface and in
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Legoktm wrote:
> I used to be more active in Wikidata development but was put off after
> discovering that WMDE developers can directly push commits without review,
> and if they need to be reverted I need to spend 20 minutes trying to figure
> out how to use Gith
On 02/17/2015 03:43 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote:
Hi.
I recently started following mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase on Gerrit,
and quite astonishingly found that nearly all of the 100 most recently
updated changes appear to be owned by WMDE employees (exceptions being
one change by Legoktm and some from L
What bugs me about it is that Wikidata has gone down the same road as
Freebase and Neo4J in the sense of developing something ad-hoc that is not
well understood.
I understand the motivations that lead there, because there are
requirements to meet that standards don't necessarily satisfy, plus
Wi
Hey,
As Lydia mentioned, we obviously do not actively discourage outside
contributions, and will gladly listen to suggestions on how we can do
better. That being said, we are actively taking steps to make it easier for
developers not already part of the community to start contributing.
For instan
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
> Upd: I found https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseRepository,
> https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseClient and
> https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseLib, but they're marked as "experimental
> splits" and have no commits since Oct 2014, so I suppose they're
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
> Out of curiosity, was GitHub chosen because it fitted with your workflow?
Several reasons but mostly exposure to other users of libraries that
are not tied to MediaWiki and workflow.
> Will you embrace Differential when it comes?
That's a d
Il 17/02/2015 13:33, Ricordisamoa ha scritto:
Il 17/02/2015 12:53, Lydia Pintscher ha scritto:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
Hi.
I recently started following mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase on Gerrit, and
quite astonishingly found that nearly all of the 100 most recently
Il 17/02/2015 12:53, Lydia Pintscher ha scritto:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
Hi.
I recently started following mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase on Gerrit, and
quite astonishingly found that nearly all of the 100 most recently updated
changes appear to be owned by WMDE empl
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
> Hi.
> I recently started following mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase on Gerrit, and
> quite astonishingly found that nearly all of the 100 most recently updated
> changes appear to be owned by WMDE employees (exceptions being one change by
> Lego
Hi.
I recently started following mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase on Gerrit,
and quite astonishingly found that nearly all of the 100 most recently
updated changes appear to be owned by WMDE employees (exceptions being
one change by Legoktm and some from L10n-bot). This is not the case, for
examp
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