[WikiEducator] Re: Active interest in our Strategy -- WE welcome your inputs!
Always good to touch base :-) ALLways= Responses in text below. Thanks Simon -- have you been pointing folk to the most recent page being used for strategy development of the OER Foundation? See: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:OER_Foundation/Strategy (I saw in earlier emails that you were pointing to the Logic Model of the Hewlett foundation bid -- just checking ;-) ) No, you're right. The main message (I was making to them) was Towards_open_participatory_learning_environments and the comparison between producer/consumer models and commons based peer production, so yes I was pointing at the earlier page. = http://www.wikieducator.org/Funding_proposals/Towards_open_participatory_learning_environments:_Open_textbooks,_educator_training#Improving_collaboration_and_content_interoperability_between_mainstream_OER_projects Encourage your networks to provide feedback here: Geez mate. They're bureaucrats. And you've told me about the world bank ones. http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator_talk:OER_Foundation/Strategy The OER Foundation (OERF) subscribes to open philanthropy -- I'm encouraging very wide feedback. We need to get this right. Collaboration among OER initiatives is a strategic priority for the OERF -- it doesn't really matter where OER is hosted -- more important to facilitate a network of collaboration. OK. The main message I'll try and make is this. We have a gap between the creatives and the infrastructure guys, MIT seems to have the same perspective, probably because they have an akamai perspective (and percentage from it). http://wiki.ocwconsortium.org/index.php?title=A_Call_for_Papers:_OCWC_Global_2009_-_Content%2C_Infrastructure%2C_and_Creativity The infrastructure is already there. Its called an NREN in every country. The creatives, like wikix and moodlexxx, only consider the top layer; http only usually. And they don't often consider the real time between networks. Skype, a closed voip global, costs zero. It's good enough. The telcos build for institutions (sometimes globally) and individuals (usually locally). Global COP's, forget it! If you watch some of those questnet videos, especialy people like sami from the finish one, you'll see the common failings in each country. The networks revolve around institutions. As a start -- we will be working on building a technical bridge between Connexions and the MW platform. That's good. Sorting the info so one domain complements another. It's a bit like wikipedia signing an MOU to take 100k images from the german archivists into the wiki commons. So we duplicate (again), Meanwhile the infrstructure guys say Once we make some sense of how best to manage the archiving process we’ll see who else is able to host our data. http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/were-adding-an-off-site-archive-for-commons-and-the-xml-snapshots/ and the duplication goes on, and on. And the poor (national) librarians wonder what these upstarts are doing. I guess you know that WMF abcom are trying to get a process happening where ideas can be developed into concepts and then into projects. They've created a bit of a stir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Advisory_Council_on_Proje... Yip --- You may also be interested in the approach WE is taking for the establishement of community-wide projects. We're currently working on a policy for Workgroups which hopefully cater for more flexible approaches, see: http://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Workgroups/Guidelines That's nice, WE is probably the best at making these things explicit. If the moodlers (like OCWC) of the world were as good, we'd probably find a common language and approach. I take it you realize the (WE, WMF, Moodle) advisory board is just another workgroup? They could use some decent guidelines. You will also know that WMF will be comencing with an open strategy development process -- impressive project. I was over at WMF headquarters 2 weeks ago in my capacity as advisory board member helping the team to think through the process. Gosh, I wish we could see these kinds of conversations. Sounds like a cable channel to me. You spoken to the guys at researchchannel? It woud certainly alleviate their boring lectures. In the meantime, how about streaming them? Ted (turner) would probably stump the pennies, but Internet2 already have their commons, which, according to some of the guys, they'd like to share. My interest is, so far as the OER stuff is concerned, and that includes OCWC members, is how you might be acting as a catalyst here, or see wikieducator acting as a catalyst. I keep reading the doc, especially the (so called) paradox between teaching and learning, and just coming to a mental block. Which leads me to think that you're still looking at the Hewlett bid document -- which was very specific to some of the technical/pedagogical aspects of reuse. Either OER's are designed for one or the other.
[WikiEducator] Re: Active interest in our Strategy -- WE welcome your inputs!
Hey Simon, I was wondering if you could explain your patent, wasn't it something like the dewey system but using domain names or something like that? Warm Regards Chris Harvey On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM, simonfj simo...@cols.com.au wrote: Always good to touch base :-) ALLways= Responses in text below. Thanks Simon -- have you been pointing folk to the most recent page being used for strategy development of the OER Foundation? See: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:OER_Foundation/Strategy (I saw in earlier emails that you were pointing to the Logic Model of the Hewlett foundation bid -- just checking ;-) ) No, you're right. The main message (I was making to them) was Towards_open_participatory_learning_environments and the comparison between producer/consumer models and commons based peer production, so yes I was pointing at the earlier page. = http://www.wikieducator.org/Funding_proposals/Towards_open_participatory_learning_environments:_Open_textbooks,_educator_training#Improving_collaboration_and_content_interoperability_between_mainstream_OER_projects Encourage your networks to provide feedback here: Geez mate. They're bureaucrats. And you've told me about the world bank ones. http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator_talk:OER_Foundation/Strategy The OER Foundation (OERF) subscribes to open philanthropy -- I'm encouraging very wide feedback. We need to get this right. Collaboration among OER initiatives is a strategic priority for the OERF -- it doesn't really matter where OER is hosted -- more important to facilitate a network of collaboration. OK. The main message I'll try and make is this. We have a gap between the creatives and the infrastructure guys, MIT seems to have the same perspective, probably because they have an akamai perspective (and percentage from it). http://wiki.ocwconsortium.org/index.php?title=A_Call_for_Papers:_OCWC_Global_2009_-_Content%2C_Infrastructure%2C_and_Creativity The infrastructure is already there. Its called an NREN in every country. The creatives, like wikix and moodlexxx, only consider the top layer; http only usually. And they don't often consider the real time between networks. Skype, a closed voip global, costs zero. It's good enough. The telcos build for institutions (sometimes globally) and individuals (usually locally). Global COP's, forget it! If you watch some of those questnet videos, especialy people like sami from the finish one, you'll see the common failings in each country. The networks revolve around institutions. As a start -- we will be working on building a technical bridge between Connexions and the MW platform. That's good. Sorting the info so one domain complements another. It's a bit like wikipedia signing an MOU to take 100k images from the german archivists into the wiki commons. So we duplicate (again), Meanwhile the infrstructure guys say Once we make some sense of how best to manage the archiving process we’ll see who else is able to host our data. http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/were-adding-an-off-site-archive-for-commons-and-the-xml-snapshots/ and the duplication goes on, and on. And the poor (national) librarians wonder what these upstarts are doing. I guess you know that WMF abcom are trying to get a process happening where ideas can be developed into concepts and then into projects. They've created a bit of a stir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Advisory_Council_on_Proje. .. Yip --- You may also be interested in the approach WE is taking for the establishement of community-wide projects. We're currently working on a policy for Workgroups which hopefully cater for more flexible approaches, see: http://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Workgroups/Guidelines That's nice, WE is probably the best at making these things explicit. If the moodlers (like OCWC) of the world were as good, we'd probably find a common language and approach. I take it you realize the (WE, WMF, Moodle) advisory board is just another workgroup? They could use some decent guidelines. You will also know that WMF will be comencing with an open strategy development process -- impressive project. I was over at WMF headquarters 2 weeks ago in my capacity as advisory board member helping the team to think through the process. Gosh, I wish we could see these kinds of conversations. Sounds like a cable channel to me. You spoken to the guys at researchchannel? It woud certainly alleviate their boring lectures. In the meantime, how about streaming them? Ted (turner) would probably stump the pennies, but Internet2 already have their commons, which, according to some of the guys, they'd like to share. My interest is, so far as the OER stuff is concerned, and that includes OCWC members, is how you might be acting as a catalyst here, or see wikieducator acting as a catalyst.
[WikiEducator] Re: Google Docs download feature to Open Office; possible for Mediawiki?
Does anyone have ideas about how to go about this - pitching to Google that it's in their interest to do enable this functionality? I would suggest you post a request on the Google Docs forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs?hl=en Cheers, John http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS http://johnsearth.blogspot.com From: Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com To: WikiEducator wikieducator@googlegroups.com Cc: e...@wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:35:59 AM Subject: [WikiEducator] Google Docs download feature to Open Office; possible for Mediawiki? Hi Everyone, I've been using Google Docs to download MS Word documents straight into Open Office. (There's a conversion feature that downloads docs into pdf, html, text and word. If there was an option to do it directly from Google Docs into Mediawiki syntax, that would be great. Does anyone have ideas about how to go about this - pitching to Google that it's in their interest to do enable this functionality? It would save lots of time BTW: I've noticed you tend to need a fair bit of RAM to convert larger documents from Open Office directly into mediawiki syntax, and if Google could do it for us, so much the better. PS. I've documented the uploading process - http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media/Uploading_Content - Randy -- Randy Fisher MA, OMD * Change Management, Learning Performance * Stakeholder Engagement, Virtual Collaboration Communities of Practice * Organization Design Development * Coaching Facilitation * E-Learning + 1 604.684.2275 (Pacific Time) wikira...@gmail.com http://www.wikieducator.org - Member, WikiEducator Community Council http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher Skype: wikirandy Open Education is a Sustainable Renewable Resource. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Google Docs download feature to Open Office; possible for Mediawiki?
Hi John, Great idea - OK, I've done so.now, I need your support - and our Community's support. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=673817f9f1e15b7ehl=en Can you post your support under this thread? - Randy On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:01 AM, john stampe jwsta...@yahoo.com wrote: *Does anyone have ideas about how to go about this - pitching to Google that it's in their interest to do enable this functionality?* I would suggest you post a request on the Google Docs forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs?hl=en Cheers, John http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS http://johnsearth.blogspot.com -- *From:* Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com *To:* WikiEducator wikieducator@googlegroups.com *Cc:* e...@wikimedia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:35:59 AM *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Google Docs download feature to Open Office; possible for Mediawiki? Hi Everyone, I've been using Google Docs to download MS Word documents straight into Open Office. (There's a conversion feature that downloads docs into pdf, html, text and word. If there was an option to do it directly from Google Docs into Mediawiki syntax, that would be great. *Does anyone have ideas about how to go about this - pitching to Google that it's in their interest to do enable this functionality?* It would save lots of time BTW: I've noticed you tend to need a fair bit of RAM to convert larger documents from Open Office directly into mediawiki syntax, and if Google could do it for us, so much the better. PS. I've documented the uploading process - http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media/Uploading_Content - Randy -- Randy Fisher MA, OMD * Change Management, Learning Performance * Stakeholder Engagement, Virtual Collaboration Communities of Practice * Organization Design Development * Coaching Facilitation * E-Learning + 1 604.684.2275 (Pacific Time) wikira...@gmail.com http://www.wikieducator.org - Member, WikiEducator Community Council http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher Skype: wikirandy Open Education is a Sustainable Renewable Resource. -- Randy Fisher MA, OMD * Change Management, Learning Performance * Stakeholder Engagement, Virtual Collaboration Communities of Practice * Organization Design Development * Coaching Facilitation * E-Learning + 1 604.684.2275 (Pacific Time) wikira...@gmail.com http://www.wikieducator.org - Member, WikiEducator Community Council http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher Skype: wikirandy Open Education is a Sustainable Renewable Resource. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] SUNY Delhi 2-3-98 Conference, August 6th and 7th, 2009 - Open Delhi Discussions - Conference
This might interest some of you. https://confluence.delhi.edu/display/ODD/SUNY+Delhi+2-3-98+Conference,+A ugust+6th+and+7th,+2009;jsessionid=2977E8646A93CA9A2E560357CD321952 Link was provided by Ken Udas, Penn State University. Warm wishes, Patricia Patricia Schlicht Programme Assistant COMMONWEALTH OF LEARNING LEARNING FOR DEVELOPMENT. COL is an intergovernmental organisation created by Commonwealth Heads of Government to encourage the development and sharing of open learning and distance education knowledge, resources and technologies. Suite 1200 - 1055 West Hastings Street, Vancouver BC V6E 2E9 Canada PH: +1.604.775.8227 | FAX: +1.604.775.8210 | WEB: www.col.org | E-MAIL: pschli...@col.org mailto:pschli...@col.org The Sixth Pan-Commonwealth Forum on Open and Distance Learning http://www.col.org/pcf6 will take place in Cochin, India, in November 2010 (exact date to be announced later). It will be hosted in collaboration with the Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU). A 'Green' reminder: P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Guideline policy proposal
Hi all! At the style guide workgroup, we've begun work on a new document! The guideline policy proposal http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:style_guidelines/Guideline_policy_proposal is meant to describe new WikiEducator policy outlining how the style guidelines will be used, created, and amended. Our goal is to have the first complete draft by 10 August, then the final draft completed at 20 August so that we can present it to the Community Council for their meeting starting 7 September. Stop by and give us a hand, or just to find out how all of it works! See you at the wiki! Jesse Groppi Skype: jesse.groppi http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jesse_Groppi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
