Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread geni
2008/12/21 wjhon...@aol.com: As Todd mentions, some of us already subscribe to various online services. *IF* the WMF could negotiate a group rate, that could be a win-win situation. I would also come down on the side of established editors versus Admins. We are trying to ease the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/21/2008 1:39:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Your problem would be getting a big enough group to make it worthwhile. Fairly few wikipedians are going to be interested in any given journal and searching them effectively is quite a trick. I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread Nick
The idea is a good one, the idea of accessing material online came out of something I suggested (and I seriously doubt I'm alone in doing) in suggesting we find volunteers who could be trusted to verify the content of books being used as references in the case of more contentious and potentially

[WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread David Gerard
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/caitlin_moran/article5371572.ece I think she's saying that, given a wiki page to edit, everyone turns into an incredibly tedious nerd. (I know I do.) - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/21 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com: I'm an incredibly tedious nerd in real life, so that saves time. Me talking to Press Association last year: Me: We're basically a bunch of nerds who think writing an encyclopedia is *really cool fun*. Journalist: Nerds? You call

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 WODUP wikiwo...@gmail.com: The article says The most notable instance of this was on the night Barack Obama won the American election. I found that his entire, detailed entry disappeared for nearly an hour - to be replaced with the one-line entry, Barack Obama is the new SOCIALIST

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread WODUP
The article says The most notable instance of this was on the night Barack Obama won the American election. I found that his entire, detailed entry disappeared for nearly an hour - to be replaced with the one-line entry, Barack Obama is the new SOCIALIST President of the United States of America.,

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread Andrew Cates
Yeah but judging by the article she probably isn't computer savvy enough to realize you have to refresh a page to see if it has changed. BozMo On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:10 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/22 WODUP wikiwo...@gmail.com: The article says The most notable

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/22 WODUP wikiwo...@gmail.com: The article says The most notable instance of this was on the night Barack Obama won the American election. I found that his entire, detailed entry disappeared for nearly an hour

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:06 PM, WODUP wikiwo...@gmail.com wrote: The article says The most notable instance of this was on the night Barack Obama won the American election. I found that his entire, detailed entry disappeared for nearly an hour - to be replaced with the one-line entry, Barack

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread Oldak Quill
2008/12/21 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/caitlin_moran/article5371572.ece I think she's saying that, given a wiki page to edit, everyone turns into an incredibly tedious nerd. (I know I do.) From the article: Wikipedia's founding belief

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we should have a Wikipedia for reporters page which details things like how to check how long some particular edit persisted. Working on it. Give me a bit, I have an outline but no content. The communications

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.comwrote: Perhaps we should have a Wikipedia for reporters page which details things like how to check how long some particular edit persisted.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread Gwern Branwen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Thomas Larsen wrote: Hi, This is an interesting idea indeed. However, I'm not sure it would fly, for two reasons: 1) I doubt many receivers (of journals, etc.) would be able to understand them well enough.

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Times on Wikipedia

2008-12-21 Thread Jon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:06 PM, WODUP wikiwo...@gmail.com wrote: The article says The most notable instance of this was on the night Barack Obama won the American election. I found that his entire, detailed entry

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread FT2
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: JSTOR also claims ownership over a great deal of indisputably public domain works. I'd hate to think that a penny of my donations to the WMF would be going to support such organizations. If it were a big concern,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread Jon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FT2 wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: JSTOR also claims ownership over a great deal of indisputably public domain works. I'd hate to think that a penny of my donations to the WMF would be going to

Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp

2008-12-21 Thread Soxred93
Wait until he is at a press conference to throw your shoes at him. -X! On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:11 PM [Dec 21, 2008 ], Charlotte Webb wrote: On 12/21/08, White Cat wikipedia.kawaii.n...@gmail.com wrote: Or we could hire someone to throw him a shoe or perhaps a pretzel ;) - What, so he

Re: [WikiEN-l] Subscription idea

2008-12-21 Thread Todd Allen
I think here, the most good we could probably do is in getting access to journals that your average public library won't offer. I do get access to some research resources through the regular public libraries here, and that's pretty standard. Maybe we should survey what those offer, to get a better