[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-03 Thread David Gerard
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: 2009/3/3 Subject: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello all, as some of you may have seen, I've run a small survey over the

[WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread David Gerard
By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade gracefully for non-CSS browsers and IE users? - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/3/3 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade gracefully for non-CSS browsers and IE users? Youch, that's messy in IE7.

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/3/3 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/3 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: Youch, that's messy in IE7. Lovely though it may be, that 30-50% of our audience would not be happy... Indeed. I emailed Hakon Lie inviting his participation, but noting that dropping even IE6, lovely as that would be, is not a happener in the

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:30 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade gracefully for non-CSS browsers and IE users? -

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/3 K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au: The author has only taken in account standards compliant browsers (Firefox, Safari, Opera to name a few) which is wrong since they are not 100% used, i believe IE 6 which is hardly compliant in these matters is still at 40% usage, thats just the

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread geni
2009/3/3 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade gracefully for non-CSS browsers and IE users? - d. Hmm it's broken in

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/3/3 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the likelihood of making as much as possible CSS? How to make infoboxes degrade

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/3/3 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: By Hakon Wium Lie of Opera: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/infobox/ What is the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Now that's putting faith in Wikipedia

2009-03-03 Thread Alvaro GarcĂ­a
At least on Safari, it leads to the Facebook Skittles page, with the floating box above everything. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:33, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comragesoss%2bwikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Now that's putting faith in Wikipedia

2009-03-03 Thread Falcorian
Well, they seem to be driving plenty of traffic our way: http://stats.grok.se/en/200902/Skittles_(confectionery) --Falcorian ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Now that's putting faith in Wikipedia

2009-03-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/3 Falcorian alex.public.account+enwikimailingl...@gmail.com: Well, they seem to be driving plenty of traffic our way: http://stats.grok.se/en/200902/Skittles_(confectionery) Just think of our revenue from all these hits! ... Er, wait ... - d.

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Ray Saintonge
Gwern Branwen wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Andrew Gray wrote: On another note, wow. I hadn't realised how much stuff was in our infoboxes. The five lines of government I can understand, the two GDPs ditto, but do we really need a quick-reference for proportion of area which is

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On 3 Mar 2009 at 11:49:01 -0500, Gwern Branwen wrote: All of those are pretty interesting things - what side of the road tells you both historical information, and also is terribly practical if you're there* * Although one certainly hopes that anyone driving in a particular country will

[WikiEN-l] Disclaimer

2009-03-03 Thread Jay Litwyn
Subject-Was: And you thot you had problems with civility. In case you did not guess, that was not a first-hand account of what is likely a true story if it does not closely resemble one. After some thought and research, I decided that parole was not a likely future for a teacher who managed to

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to de-table Wikipedia infoboxes

2009-03-03 Thread Jay Litwyn
I like two things about CSS: it permits background colours. Why could they not hav just put bgcolor= as a new attribute in a font? Many first choices of font face are ignored for not being present, while in PDF output, you get to say Embed TrueType as subset: YES, following Adobe's style guide

Re: [WikiEN-l] PDF generation enabled for live testing onen.wikipedia.org

2009-03-03 Thread Jay Litwyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Pageprintable=yes That is what I found when I was looking for what Brian Vibber means in this thread. It is not PDF; It is -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN . It removes the most dynamic links I can think of, and those links do nothing on

Re: [WikiEN-l] PDF generation enabled for live testing onen.wikipedia.org

2009-03-03 Thread Chris Down
I don't understand what you are saying. That is not the new feature. Thishttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book/download/collection_id=4a72c9755acd8a84writer=rlreturn_to=Main+Pageis what Brion is talking about. - Chris On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Jay Litwyn brewh...@edmc.net