Re: [WikiEN-l] Nofollow and sister projects

2009-06-24 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/6/24 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: I was trying to follow the nofollow discussion (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nofollow#Current_use_on_Wikimedia_projects). I see it hinges on external links, and my question about it would be concerning when an interwiki link to a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Social ideas (was Hi there)

2009-06-24 Thread Emily Monroe
The Community Portal is semi-protected, so its not that vulnerable to vandalism. Good to know! On the skin I'm using it is in the sidebar on every page under Interaction, so it's pretty prominently placed. I use monobook--I was thinking about that. I've tried out other skins, that should've

Re: [WikiEN-l] Social ideas (was Hi there)

2009-06-24 Thread Emily Monroe
A link to the community portal could be included in more of Wikipedia's new user welcome messages. That's a good idea if anybody actually reads the welcome message. I'm not saying this sarcastically--I didn't read mine. Emily Is there any way to better advertise the community portal, so

Re: [WikiEN-l] Social ideas (was Hi there)

2009-06-24 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: A link to the community portal could be included in more of Wikipedia's new user welcome messages. That's a good idea if anybody actually reads the welcome message. I'm not saying this sarcastically--I didn't read

Re: [WikiEN-l] Social ideas (was Hi there)

2009-06-24 Thread Emily Monroe
It might be an idea to survey new(er) users to find out this sort of thing. Maybe create some sort of software that tells us how many links are clicked? Emily On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Carcharoth wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: A

Re: [WikiEN-l] Social ideas (was Hi there)

2009-06-24 Thread Fred Bauder
The Community Portal is semi-protected, so its not that vulnerable to vandalism. Good to know! On the skin I'm using it is in the sidebar on every page under Interaction, so it's pretty prominently placed. I use monobook--I was thinking about that. I've tried out other skins, that should've

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nofollow and sister projects

2009-06-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/24 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: My understanding is that anything which goes to a URL - a one-bracket link - gets treated as an external link and is nofollowed, regardless of where it goes; anything created as a wikimarkup link, *including* interwiki links, is treated as

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Durova
Wired also used one of my featured picture restorations without credit. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, William King williamcarlk...@gmail.comwrote: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/editor-of-wired-apologizes-for-copying-from-wikipedia-in-new-book/ Chris Anderson, the

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/24 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Wired also used one of my featured picture restorations without credit. Credit for the original, or credit for the restoration? - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nofollow and sister projects

2009-06-24 Thread wjhonson
Are links created by templates nofollowed or followed? That is, someone creates a template like {{Brittanica|Edward VI}} or whatever. What's the follow treatment ? Will -Original Message- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed,

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Charles Matthews
William King wrote: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/editor-of-wired-apologizes-for-copying-from-wikipedia-in-new-book/ Chris Anderson, the author, summarized the situation in two words: Mea culpa. Somewhat cynical: they thought they could just cite, looked at the GFDL

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Durova
Slight correction. It was Time Magazine that ran my Brandeis restoration uncredited. The one Wired ran uncredited was the San Francisco Earthquake of 1906. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/dayintech_0418 Wired gives sole credit to the original source: *Image: H.D.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nofollow and sister projects

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 14:59, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Are links created by templates nofollowed or followed? That is, someone creates a template like {{Brittanica|Edward VI}} or whatever. What's the follow treatment ? The same as anything else: if the template creates a one-bracket link, it

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Durova
Well, taking a first stab at this. Here's my letter to Wired: Per the recent New York Times admission that one of your editors plagiarized content from Wikipedia uncredited, I respectfully request credit for media work of mine that Wired has reproduced without credit.

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread wjhonson
As a brief aside, when you sign up at wired, they send you a verification email. In that verification email... they paste your password. Bizarre. You'd think something like Wired would be a bit more security conscious than to do that. -Original Message- From: Durova

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/24 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Well, taking a first stab at this.  Here's my letter to Wired: Per the recent New York Times admission that one of your editors plagiarized content from Wikipedia uncredited, I respectfully request credit for media work of mine that Wired has

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nofollow and sister projects

2009-06-24 Thread Luna
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Mark Wagner carni...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 14:59, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Are links created by templates nofollowed or followed? That is, someone creates a template like {{Brittanica|Edward VI}} or whatever. What's the follow treatment

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Joseph Reagle
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Durova wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sfearthquake3b.jpg This file says its in the public domain. [[ Permission (Reusing this image) Public domain ]] [[ This work is in the public domain in the United States because it is a work of the United States

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Joseph Reagle
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Charles Matthews wrote: Somewhat cynical: they thought they could just cite, looked at the GFDL and thought damn, doesn't work that way, and then just went ahead. Particularly ironic given the title and perhaps subject of the book.

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

2009-06-24 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: 2009/6/24 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Well, taking a first stab at this. Here's my letter to Wired: Per the recent New York Times admission that one of your editors plagiarized content from Wikipedia uncredited, I respectfully request credit for media work of