Re: [WikiEN-l] Ahhh, physics cranks

2009-07-18 Thread Ray Saintonge
Michael Peel wrote: It's always good to have several standard alternatives for distributing information, and it will be interesting to see what happens with this one. They could have chosen a better name, though - vixra sounds like something you'd see in a spam email... The capital

[WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia/ http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia-2/ This means that we don't have to keep telling people numbers from Oct 2006 ... - d.

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia/ http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/07/new-statistics-for-the-english-wikipedia-2/ This means that

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm Cool! I'm too lazy to look. Anything there worth discussing? Look at that URL at least. You'll see the data for our

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm Cool! I'm too lazy to look. Anything there worth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8156268.stm Oh dear, they got his name wrong. David Coetzee (it is Derrick, not David) From here:

[WikiEN-l] So when do we send a bill to AP?

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
http://idealink.vijtable.com/2009/07/17/associated-press-its-okay-if-we-do-it/ Or a suggested donation to WMF, perhaps. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Could someone link to Erik Moeller's blog post and to any of the press releases from the WMF? There's been no press releases from WMF as such - Mike Godwin is, funnily enough, treating this as a legal issue, i.e. a combination of chess and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Does this make any sense?

2009-07-18 Thread Luna
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: Summary: -- User is sent to Arbcom for date delinking. The Arbcom remedy, however, prohibits him from making _any style change_ that is not specified by a style guideline. Point of information: the restriction is not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Could someone link to Erik Moeller's blog post and to any of the press releases from the WMF? There's been no press releases from WMF as such - Mike Godwin is, funnily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Carcharoth wrote: Most of that is the sale of contemporary copyrighted photographs (by living photographers earning money from their trade). But some of that will be the commercial sale of scans of PD stuff that gets free culture people up in arms. The root of this issue is the commercial

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: Most of that is the sale of contemporary copyrighted photographs (by living photographers earning money from their trade). But some of that will be the commercial sale of scans of PD stuff that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: What is most striking to my mind in this issue of use of images, is how the status quo differs from that with regard to _texts_. Yes. One has to keep in mind, of course, that the NPG is qualitatively different to most museums, and behaves

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: One more point: The British Association of Picture Libraries and Agencies has backed the National Portrait Gallery's stance. We don't have an article on BAPLA, but we do have five references

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanencimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Any chance of Wikimedia UK (the chapter) applying for a membership of BAPLA? Or would they be considered insufficiently commercial? Commons would be the

Re: [WikiEN-l] News suppression: Did it use Oversight or RevisionDelete?

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Luna lunasan...@gmail.com: Obviously I can't speak to specifics, but especially when talking with people outside the usual Wikipedia sphere, it's all too easy to get vague about terms. Take deletion as an example: if something's deleted, was the text deleted from the current

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread geni
2009/7/18 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/18 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: What is most striking to my mind in this issue of use of images, is how the status quo differs from that with regard to _texts_. Yes. One has to keep in mind, of course, that the NPG is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/7/18 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: What is most striking to my mind in this issue of use of images, is how the status quo differs from that with regard to _texts_. I suspect it's simply that with images - where the physical single master copy is quantitatively different for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: snip You may want to look through the BAPLA list and see if any charities or non-profit organisations are there - there might well be, as I've never looked through the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: snip Picture Archive Council of America: http://www.pacaoffice.org/ PACA, the Picture Archive Council of America, is the trade organization in North America that represents the vital interests of stock archives

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Sage Ross
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Cool! I'm too lazy to look. Anything there worth discussing? To me, the data is really encouraging. Take a look at the charts for New Wikipedians vs. Active Wikipedians. We knew before that both of those peaked in

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Stephen Bain
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Sage Rossragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: To me, the data is really encouraging.  Take a look at the charts for New Wikipedians vs. Active Wikipedians.  We knew before that both of those peaked in early 2007.  But now it seems that the decline has more or

[WikiEN-l] Copyright of newly found image of Phineas Gage from 1850

2009-07-18 Thread Brian
A daguerreotype of a well adjusted [[Phineas Gage]] holding the rod that impaled his frontal lobes was recently discovered. It will be published in The Journal of the History of the Neurosciences imminently. It was, in my opinion, correctly uploaded to Commons under the Public Domain. It is, after

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Charles Matthews
Sage Ross wrote: To me, the data is really encouraging. Take a look at the charts for New Wikipedians vs. Active Wikipedians. We knew before that both of those peaked in early 2007. But now it seems that the decline has more or less stabilized, and the decline in active Wikipedians was

Re: [WikiEN-l] At last, a new stats run for en:wp!

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
Having these up to date statistics available is fantastic news. Is there anything we should learn from the 2.5 year interlude? - David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright of newly found image of Phineas Gage from 1850

2009-07-18 Thread Carcharoth
Daguerrotypes are quite interesting in terms of preservation and copying. From our article on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype [That's one of the better 'start' articles I've seen, for those discussing article assessment accuracies.] The daguerreotype is a negative image, but