Re: [WikiEN-l] Policies, notability et al, was Request to Wikipedians for BB...

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Steve, news articles *in general* are primary sources. Here is how you can tell:  Is what I'm reading the first time someone has published what I'm reading? So and so was hit by a car today -- primary source, first time published.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorchach foes strike back

2009-08-24 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 gwe...@gmail.com wrote: It would seem we need a maxim to cover cases where editors couldn't win online, so they switched to offline attacks - 'complaints are an extension of editing by other means'? The problem with this argument is that it assumes that the blots aren't

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-24 Thread Jay Litwyn
wjhon...@aol.com wrote in message news://news.gmane.org/d55.57c09b43.37c33...@aol.com... In a message dated 8/23/2009 4:53:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes: The search for bees and flowers suggests pollination. I do not see anything mindless about that.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-24 Thread Jay Litwyn
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote in message news:b8ceeef70908230910h3466019cpcedf7ae0a2c0a...@mail.gmail.com... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Bod Notbodbodnot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd really hate to go to [[curry]] and see recipes. The sorts of spices that are often included yes. But

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Carcharoth wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose. Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all. We'll be in constant streaming twitter mode all the time. There won't

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-24 Thread Jay Litwyn
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank This is an approximation of what David Gerard has arrived at with his own method, Mister Johnson.] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-24 Thread Jay Litwyn
wjhon...@aol.com wrote in message news:cde.51a20c14.37c33...@aol.com... In a message dated 8/23/2009 6:07:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, I wrote of a common spam complaint that is either fraudulent or dangerous. It's a bit rough to complain about Wikihow in this

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorchach foes strike back

2009-08-24 Thread Jay Litwyn
I think [http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/Bowser.jpg that fractal] looks like a dog. [http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/Tippy.jpg That one] looks like a cat. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list,

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/24 Jay Litwyn brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank This is an approximation of what David Gerard has arrived at with his own method, Mister Johnson.] Not me, the guy who did the website :-) It did occur to me to wonder if he'd just reinvented

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose. Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all. We'll be in constant streaming twitter

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/24 geni geni...@gmail.com: In practice the end point of Natural language processing and large scale digitalisation is likely to be made to request computer generated custom articles. Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Yes. Rather a lot of conversations I have with random geeks are along these lines. Basically, infoboxes = machine-readable data = good. So the way to go there would be to make template plumbing give data more amenable to chewing on. (Standardised

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:54 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/24 geni geni...@gmail.com: In practice the end point of Natural language processing and large scale digitalisation is likely to be made to request computer generated custom articles. Wikipedia with it's surprisingly

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:47:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping stone in this direction. What is the name of every celebrity born in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 wjhon...@aol.com: In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:47:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping stone in this direction. What is the name

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/24/2009 12:23:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Birth dates and locations tend to be fairly structured within articles so are fairly easy to get. Dealing with a term as vauge as celebrity make the task impossible even with human intervention.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 wjhon...@aol.com: What about movie stars ? That's not quite as vague. Can we do that today without human intervention? People who have been in a film? Or is that too vague It can be done with say actors and actresses. Fun area since apparently it has number of closely related

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 95

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:40:23 +0100, wikien-l-Tony Sidaway wrote: Be bold and remove crap, Tell that to all the people on this list who insist on quoting back half a dozen copies of the list footer, untrimmed. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips:

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 95

2009-08-24 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/25 Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:40:23 +0100, wikien-l-Tony Sidaway wrote: Be bold and remove crap, Tell that to all the people on this list who insist on quoting back half a dozen copies of the list footer, untrimmed. While we are on the subject of

[WikiEN-l] And other observations...

2009-08-24 Thread stevertigo
A success Wikipedia has thus far been, though issues there are still. Observations, on these issues I will make. 1) Wikipedia is a collaborative website that tries to be an encyclopedia. Wikipedia's got a funny name: It was named by the founders after the technology it was based on, rather than