Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread FT2
Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section? The main disadvantage would be technical - revision data held in an extra field. What you'd have is a list of named references, and the main text only including ref name=WHATEVER / and references / tags. As the cursor moves to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread FT2
One immediate if minor advantage: old references don't get lost from the text, when their first mention is removed. FT2 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section? The main disadvantage would be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/8/29 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com: One immediate if minor advantage: old references don't get lost from the text, when their first mention is removed. There's a bot running - or, at least, was recently - that looks for unmatched ref name=whatever/ comments and digs through the article history to

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-29 Thread Emily Monroe
the lack of visible reward will have the same effect on them as on new contributors. What can we do about that? Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:08 PM, David Goodman wrote: the lack of visible reward will have the same effect on them as on new contributors. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.

[WikiEN-l] Rorchach foes strike back

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:06:19 -0400 (EST), gwe...@gmail.com wrote: Complaint Over Doctor Who Posted Inkblot Test http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/business/24inkblot.html How is Doctor Who involved in this? Were the inkblots retrieved by way of the Tardis? :-) -- == Dan == Dan's Mail

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread stevertigo
FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section? The main disadvantage would be technical - revision data held in an extra field. IIRC Greg Maxwell mentioned something about this a couple years ago. He acknowledged the issue of diminished

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-29 Thread Emily Monroe
Nice signature... I found this in my spam box. :) Yeah, anytime I see something in my junk email drawer, I assume it's Will Johnson. Not that there's anything wrong with that... Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Soxred93 wrote: Nice signature... I found this in my spam box. :) -X! On

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-29 Thread Emily Monroe
The Welcome Wagon sought to bring them into the community If it was bought back, would it survive? Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Keegan Paul wrote: The Welcoming committee is a central repository for welcoming new users. The Welcome Wagon sought to bring them into the community,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread FT2
Indeed. It was a milestone compared to what went before, and enabled citing to become a norm or expectation (rather than an option) in practice not just theory. But its some years on and we're in the #5 and useability... methynks we can do better still :) FT2 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 PM,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-29 Thread FT2
Is there an easy way to identify new editors? As in, new accounts are easy, but many users start as IPs. FT2 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: The Welcome Wagon sought to bring them into the community If it was bought back, would it survive? Emily

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-29 Thread Emily Monroe
Is there an easy way to identify new editors? Good question. I'm interested in hearing the answer. Emily On Aug 29, 2009, at 12:40 PM, FT2 wrote: Is there an easy way to identify new editors? As in, new accounts are easy, but many users start as IPs. FT2 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:32

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread stevertigo
FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. It was a milestone compared to what went before, and enabled citing to become a norm or expectation (rather than an option) in practice not just theory. But its some years on and we're in the #5 and useability... methynks we can do better still :) Well,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread WJhonson
How do we know who twit? or tweet? When a celebrity has an official web page, we can be fairly certain that what is posted there as the core content is by their own authority. How do you do that with tweets? In a message dated 8/29/2009 12:04:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/29 wjhon...@aol.com: How do we know who twit? or tweet? When a celebrity has an official web page, we can be fairly certain that what is posted there as the core content is by their own authority. How do you do that with tweets? Some celeb accounts are verified. Also, if the twitter

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 110

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:31:24 -0700, stevertigo wrote: ( 3b) (It's the infrastructure/databases/operatingsystems/browsers themselves that facilitate this ease - not just wiki. Still, we don't call ourselves the inter...pedia or the web..pedia for a reason: Those domain names were already

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 110

2009-08-29 Thread stevertigo
Daniel R. Tobiasd...@tobias.name wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:31:24 -0700, stevertigo wrote: {{fact}}... WHOIS shows that interpedia.org was regisgtered 16-Jan- 2005, and webpedia.org on 20-Jul-2004, which are both after Wikipedia was founded in 2001. So I was wrong about those domain names

[WikiEN-l] Look This Up on Wikipedia: How Big Is Too Big?

2009-08-29 Thread Keith Old
Folks, The New York Times Bits blog has a small section on Wikimania. Considering that Wikipediahttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/wikipedia/index.html?inline=nyt-org has reached Top Five world status among Web sites – with more than 330 million users – its annual Wikimania

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-29 Thread David Goodman
From the excellent little book Keywords in Evolutionary Biology by Evelyn Fox Keller Elisabeth Lloyd, Adaptation, Current uses by Mary Jane West-Eberhard, An 'adaptation' is a characteristic of an organism whose form is the result of selection in a particular functional context Accordingly.

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:52:48 +0100 (BST), Andrew Turvey wrote: See [[Wikipedia:Reviewers]] for more information. Not to be confused with Wikipedia Review, of course. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: