Re: [WikiEN-l] Bing Reference - Wikipedia and Freebase

2009-10-09 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/8 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engines/Microsofts-Bing-Adds-Reference-Page-634550/ http://www.bing.com/reference Bing is attempting to differentiate itself with a nicer reference page.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia: a liberal cesspool of fact-checking, sources and citations

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
KillerChihuahua wrote: So if you're verbose in the name of Liberalism, that's wordy and bad, but if you're verbose in the name of Conservatism, that's strong and good? check. I'll remember that. I'd hate to be verbose for all the wrong reasons. That's not the distinction that I would

Re: [WikiEN-l] FTC Guides Governing Endorsements, Testimonials

2009-10-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/9 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: The report on National Public Radio the other day stated it was unlikely the FTC would be very aggressive about this.  Yet the piece's principal focus was bloggers.  It'd be an interesting question how they'd handle the matter when it bleeds over to

Re: [WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-09 Thread Charles Matthews
Carcharoth wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well the WP:SOHE idea to me seems a reasonable compromise -- one that makes small parts of copyright texts open to our research needs, while still respecting the needs of authors to keep whole

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia words

2009-10-09 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: stevertigo wrote: Well, in our defence, hardly anyone used IPA before and now its everywhere -- thanks to us and people like Nohat, who IIRC got that started here. Yes, I remember the debate between using IPA and SAMPA.

[WikiEN-l] International Olympic Committee tells Flickr user to change license

2009-10-09 Thread Risker
Interesting article about how the International Olympic Committee is cracking down even on CC-SA licenses: http://www.thestar.com/olympics/article/707868--olympics-warns-man-about-sharing-photos-on-website I am certainly not in the forefront of the free information pack, but even I find this

Re: [WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
stevertigo wrote: David Goodman wrote: Quite apart from the incredible range available from a research library, the great majority of *Wikipedians,* even experienced ones, do not use even those sources which are made available free from local public libraries to residents. Do

Re: [WikiEN-l] International Olympic Committee tells Flickr user to change license

2009-10-09 Thread kgnp...@gmail.com
Who doesn't enjoy when a NGO imposses its unilateral will upon the world? -- Sent from my Palm Pre Risker wrote: Interesting article about how the International Olympic Committee is cracking down even on CC-SA licenses:

Re: [WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote: Well the WP:SOHE idea to me seems a reasonable compromise -- one that makes small parts of copyright texts open to our research needs, while still respecting the needs of authors to keep whole works

Re: [WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
stevertigo wrote: Carcharoth wrote: WP:SOHE being the page that you wrote recently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sourcehelpers Did you not think of trying to make Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange more active, rather than starting a new page and a new proposal? I

Re: [WikiEN-l] WP and Deep Web, was Re: Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
stevertigo wrote: The philosophic roots of this view make sense, but how do we resolve the opposing tendencies of bottlenecks on one side and dispersion of ideas on the other? Instead of fixing a hole, or not doing something for fear of creating new holes (or just for fear of holes in

Re: [WikiEN-l] deletionism in popular culture

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I gave up. Eventually I came across a controversial topic that particularly interested me, where I had the background to understand the sources and where my research radically changed my mind. So I started working on it, I even bought a pile of books about it (on