Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Carcharoth
Have you written that essay with this sort of advice in it yet? :-) Carcharoth On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:47 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: The important part of salvage work is not keeping the articles, but keeping the new contributors.   This is done not just by refraining from

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:21 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm hoping that we won't have too many trick articles in this process, or articles that should be deleted but not by CSD (the criteria are write an article that doesn't meet the deletion criteria. Hmm,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Sage Ross
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Have you written that essay with this sort of advice in it yet? :-) Carcharoth That would make a good topic for an opinion essay in the Signpost, I think.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread David Goodman
The point of my comment is that if I have the time to do it, the advice is specific to the particular article. Not suggesting looking for sources in general, but suggesting where they might be found, keeping in mind the probable availability to the user. Not saying avoid promotional phrases

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: I think you needed to point out which bits of information corresponded with which sources. I sure did! I also needed to use bullet points - but I didn't know that. I see the failed wikilinking for Bintulu was not

Re: [WikiEN-l] deletionism in popular culture

2009-11-01 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Now that's a lovely perennial idea. There's no point in hard deleting any article save to protect private information in the history. You can pure wiki delete; or even pure wiki delete and protect the blank page; but