Re: [WikiEN-l] Temporal tags and outdating

2010-05-19 Thread Andrew Gray
On 19 May 2010 03:59, Matthew Brown mor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm against the idea of automatically updating content for the reason that it's assuming the prediction in the article about a future event is true and actually happened as predicted. Two examples of outdated statements, both spotted

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Carcharoth
The link to Special:Search is the magnifying glass icon next to (or in) the search box. To get Search instead of Go, do what Magnus Manske suggested a few days ago: just type your search query, then hit the cursor up key to select the last point in the dropdown box, which is the good ol' search

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: The link to Special:Search is the magnifying glass icon next to (or in) the search box. To get Search instead of Go, do what Magnus

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: snip But pressing the down button does nothing any more. *sigh* Yeah, they replaces AB with CD, then silently removed D. Be

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: The link to Special:Search is the magnifying glass

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe if the Go page had a Not the result you wanted? Click here to search by text prompt at the top? That would work as well. I also find throwing a random extra term into the search helps focus it and takes you to the search

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: snip The down arrow still works for me. Whoops. I meant clicking the *up* arrow no longer works for me. In my original post (which Magnus replied to) I had mentioned the down arrow when I meant the up arrow. You can't even

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikipedia-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure changing the default from Go! to text search is the answer, though - and adding another button would be confusing. Maybe if the Go page had a Not the result you wanted? Click here to search by text prompt at the top?

Re: [WikiEN-l] full-text searching since the Vector switch in en.wikipedia

2010-05-19 Thread Steve Summit
Carcharoth wrote: I suppose the idea is that most people using that search box want go functionality, Many tech-savvy editors, perhaps, but certainly not most readers. not search functionality, but seeing as Google's default is search not go, I suspect more people are used to getting a list

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 82, Issue 38

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Ritchey
In which year of Wikipedia's existence did it start to really attract and satisfy users? In other words, when did it hit a critical mass of good content so that users searching for information on Topic X had a reasonable chance of finding something on the site that would make them want to

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 82, Issue 38

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 16:43, Michael Ritchey ritche...@familysearch.org wrote: In which year of Wikipedia's existence did it start to really attract and satisfy users? In other words, when did it hit a critical mass of good content so that users searching for information on Topic X had a reasonable

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 82, Issue 38

2010-05-19 Thread FT2
A google news search for Wikipedia is revealing: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?pz=1cf=allhl=enq=wikipediacf=all A table of google blog hits by year (easy to do) would probably be a good way to get impressions of cultural use, with scholarly and academic use following about 3-4 years after

Re: [WikiEN-l] Temporal tags and outdating

2010-05-19 Thread stevertigo
Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: In the first case, he did. In the second case, it didn't, because the program got cancelled. A self-updating text would be fine in the first half, but quite problematic in the latter. Nice catches. I've been seeing them all the time too in my casual

[WikiEN-l] Updated new search interface on the prototype

2010-05-19 Thread Naoko Komura
Hi, everyone. We have received problem reports and feedback that search queries were truncated sometimes and the search suggestions were hard to read or chose due to the limited width. We apologize for introducing broken behaviors in using the search. In order to mitigate spreading the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Updated new search interface on the prototype

2010-05-19 Thread David Goodman
Not bad in terms of function, except for the small size of the search box, which should be twice the current size there. But it would still be better on the left side, under the logo. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM,