Re: [WikiEN-l] CZ fork: Tendrl

2010-12-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I can picture a model in which lots of other people write what turn out to be feeder wikis for Wikipedia. But I can't see what's really in it for the volunteers on those wikis. Are you serious? What's in it for them is the

Re: [WikiEN-l] CZ fork: Tendrl

2010-12-14 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I can picture a model in which lots of other people write what turn out to be feeder wikis for Wikipedia. But I can't see what's really in it for

[WikiEN-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! This is exciting, because there is lots of article history in here which was assumed to be

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Chad
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! This is

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Michael Snow
On 12/14/2010 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! I guess producing database dumps was easier in

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread WereSpielChequers
Can these edits be imported into wikipedia in time for the tenth anniversary? I'm assuming some will relate to pages that have since been moved or deleted so I appreciate this won't be an easy project. WereSpielChequers On 14 December 2010 16:16, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
Deferring to tech views but I'd have thought almost certainly not. There may well be gaps after August 2001 for one thing; importing earlier records would incorrectly imply a complete history was shown of user and page edits. We probably could make a museum piece of them by creating

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread emijrp
Hi; Thanks Tim. Congratulations. Is Wikipedia:UuU[1] now out-of-date? Regards, emijrp [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UuU 2010/12/14 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! This is

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! This is

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
Would prefer on its own wiki as this is comprehensive up to a given date. Maybe January2001.wikipedia.org -- immediate impact. (DNS software cannot handle 2001.wikipedia.org) FT2 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim

Re: [WikiEN-l] CZ fork: Tendrl

2010-12-14 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 December 2010 19:19, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:49:28 +, Charles Matthews wrote: Two or three years ago I was much more in the thick of things, and I remember telling a

Re: [WikiEN-l] CZ fork: Tendrl

2010-12-14 Thread Charles Matthews
On 14/12/2010 19:40, George Herbert wrote: I think Charles is describing groupings as of 2 years ago rather than current. They've changed. Oh, quite. What I described was history. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
On 15/12/10 04:17, emijrp wrote: Hi; Thanks Tim. Congratulations. Is Wikipedia:UuU[1] now out-of-date? Yes, the earliest surviving edit is now This is the new WikiPedia!, made to HomePage by office.bomis.com, presumably Jimmy. Larry signed a comment a short time later from a different IP

[WikiEN-l] Web 3.0?

2010-12-14 Thread Charles Matthews
I knew little about Web 3.0 (WP and Facebook and don't care having shown Web 2.0 to be something rather than nothing) until I talked to Andrew Turvey and Mike Peel of WMUK in a Starbucks one day. And I later realised that some of what I had heard made sense. I floated this at the London meetup

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Charles Matthews
I appreciate the challenge in getting old versions posted again. But I'm also interested in the folks, rather more than in CamelCase and UseMod. As I asked somewhere else recently, where are they now? I don't mean outing people; just what do we really know about the Old Bolsheviks, shot or

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: HomePage * WikiPedia * PhilosophyAndLogic * UnitedStates * PopularMusic * SportS * MathematicsAndStatistics * CountriesOfTheWorld * AaA * AfghanistaN * UuU * TechnologY * ComputinG * ComputerSoftware *

Re: [WikiEN-l] Web 3.0?

2010-12-14 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 16:13, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Yahoo is to WP as Google is to ??? Charles can you rephrase this part about sourcing, and how it relates to the Deep Web? It sounds interesting but I don't understand it. Tim Berners-Lee wants us to be

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Andrew Gray
On 14 December 2010 22:02, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: him. Articles were created in the following order: * HomePage * WikiPedia * PhilosophyAndLogic It's interesting to note our early priorities! http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/979602227.txt Two months later...

Re: [WikiEN-l] Web 3.0?

2010-12-14 Thread Tony Sidaway
This is essentially a concept called the Semantic Web. Unfortunately our article on the topic hasn't yet attracted many Wikipedians who can describe it without resorting to gobbledygook. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To