So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be taken
literally?
It is simply a totem. If you want to be cruel you call it a sound-bite which
takes liberty with reality, if you want to be kind you call it a
foundation-myth which serves to encapsulate the ethos and meaning of
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12171977
Wikipedia is too complicated for many people to modify despite billing
itself as the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, its founder has
said.
*cough*
On 14 January 2011 09:21, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12171977
Wikipedia is too complicated for many people to modify despite billing
itself as the free
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy user to
type that phrase into a document as a first test. I would be surprised
if anyone expressed a good reason to doubt it.
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy user to
type that phrase into a document as a first test. I would be surprised
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy
On 14 January 2011 12:25, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
One possibility, though, is that he typed it at some point, but there
was an earlier edit he forgot. Memory can be a selective thing. What
you would look for, if going further into this, is the first time he
recalled this
On Friday, January 14, 2011, Thomas Dalton wrote:
Sure, Jimmy is certainly capable of making mistakes, but unless there
is evidence to suggest that he did it seems sensible to me to assume
that he is correct. As you say, it's not a critical piece of
information so we don't need to try and
On 14/01/11 07:49, Joseph Reagle wrote:
I've seen both Wales and Gardner (e.g., [1]) note that Wikipedia
began with Wales typing in Hello World.
[1]:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jan/12/wikipedia-internet
That's a neat historical fact, but is there a source?
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 January 2011 12:01, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
'So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be
taken literally?'
I don't see why not. It's far from unusual for a tech-savvy
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:10 PM, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wikipedia becomes more like religion every day.
With a God-King in a cloud realm and the occasional crucifixion. Not
to mention passing the plate on a regular basis.
I think it is important that we don't develop the same
All,
Civility echoes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/14/opinion/14brooks.html?nl=todaysheadlinese
mc=tha212
Marc
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On 12/01/2011 23:59, phoebe ayers wrote:
All of those things are true, to my knowledge :)
There's a page to collect Wikipedia10 media coverage at:
http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage
Three pieces of BBC coverage today: a World Service documentary
The Economist is in there. The FT piece probably isn't because they've
paywalled their site.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 12/01/2011 23:59, phoebe ayers wrote:
All of those things are true, to my knowledge :)
There's a page
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember that in 1992 I was stung by a wasp near the end of a day in
York. I would happily take you to the precise location outside York
station, I said fuck. There is absolutely no documentation for this.
It
The Signpost (on en-wikipedia) is also collecting news articles as
well, and may have better English-language coverage (the other site is
good as a starting point for the worldwide coverage, but attempting to
be comprehensive with something like that is laudable if difficult -
at some point the
(Following on from another thread)
I have a theory that Wikipedia makes only *part* of the Internet not
suck. Wikipedians aggregate online knowledge (and offline as well, but
let's stick to online here), thus making it easier to find information
about something, especially when there are lots of
On 15 January 2011 04:41, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
To take a specific example, I very occasionally come across names of
people or topics where it is next-to-impossible to find out anything
meaningful about them because the name is identical to that of someone
else.
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