Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wrote: > Or, if you need the whole story: I think you've just proven Tony's point. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Tony Sidaway wrote: >> And for the avoidance of  doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision >> to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy >> Wales' birth date. > > I guess one person's

[WikiEN-l] Pew surveys, 2007 and 2010

2011-01-16 Thread Tony Sidaway
Few organizations track Wikipedia usage. Pew has carried out a couple of surveys of American adults in recent years, listed below: 2007 http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2007/Wikipedia-users.aspx 2007 "36% of online American adults consult Wikipedia" Pew found that in America Wikipedia was more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Tony Sidaway wrote: > And for the avoidance of  doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision > to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy > Wales' birth date. I guess one person's "pointless blog discussion thread" is another person's "

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Tony Sidaway
And for the avoidance of doubt, I was referring to Anthony's decision to drag in a reference to pointless blog discussion thread about Jimmy Wales' birth date. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki wrote: > I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader > as a "deranged vendetta". Simple questioning isn't what I call a "deranged vendetta". Snide innuendo of the most slimy kind is what I refer to. As I said, I question the purpose

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Skyring
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, wiki wrote: > I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader > as a "deranged vendetta". I thought Tony was merely engaging in some gentle self-criticism. -- Peter in Canberra ___ WikiEN-

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread wiki
I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader as a "deranged vendetta". Are you suggesting all criticism is a mark of either hatred or insanity - or both? That line of defending leaders against criticism has a somewhat unsavoury history. What happened here is that som

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-16 Thread Tony Sidaway
I think the point is being missed. Wikipedia does not set out to manipulate search engine results, that's just a happy accident of its content being pretty good and many search engines weighting its content appropriately. We make the internet not suck by putting the information on our website, mai

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-16 Thread Tony Sidaway
Does every thread referring to Jimmy Wales really have to become a venue for some deranged vendetta? How does this help us to write an encyclopedia? ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-16 Thread Newyorkbrad
Interesting thread and questions. A related question though is whether unfettered eternal searchability of the Internet is unambiguously a good thing. Take the types of BLP, privacy, etc. issues we deal with everyday on Wikipedia, and extrapolate them to the rest of the 'net Newyorkbrad On

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-16 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: > On 15/01/2011, Carcharoth wrote: >> To take a specific example, I very occasionally come across names of >> people or topics where it is next-to-impossible to find out anything >> meaningful about them because the name is identical to that of