[WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Scott MacDonald
After the confrontation between Derrick Coetzee and the National Portrait Gallery, I thought people would enjoy this irony. I wandered on to this page of theirs on John Michael Wright: http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?search=saLinkID=mp07767 role=artwPage=0 Hm, that

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread geni
On 20 March 2011 16:43, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: Can I sue them? Sure . However under UK law which means you can only sue for actual damages. Which in this case is likely to be limited. In reality if you made enough threats you might get a few £ of out of them at which

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Scott MacDonald
Alternatively, I could make a gift of my intellectual property on that article to Derrick Coetzee :) -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of geni Sent: 20 March 2011 17:03 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re:

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Carcharoth
It is possible they have used that text from someone else who has taken it from Wikipedia. I sometimes find this in the line of work I do, where people submit information on the items they submit to us (with no indication of where this information has come from), and I then double-check and

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2011 18:13, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: You would need to identify the point in times at which the word structure of the current sentences emerge and who wrote them. Given that others have contributed to this article, you would need to be sure that they did not

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Scott MacDonald
I guess I was mainly enjoying the irony that people so prickly about their own asserted copyrights can be so slapdash with material that is someone else's copyright. They threw bricks at Derrick, now it appears they are inhabiting a glass-house. I doubt I'm much motivated to do anything about it

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Scott MacDonald
I discovered the NPG's infringement after the article [[John Michael Wright]] was slated for TFA (due in an hour or two). As I say, I wrote 95% of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#Errors_in_the_summar y_of_today.27s_or_tomorrow.27s_featured_article and

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
(Escalation, should that fail conclusively, would probably usefully involve the blogosphere and then the media, in that order. Escalation via the media strikes me as a completely inappropriate approach even in theory. Newyorkbrad ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
Hopefully the internal dispute on-wiki is now resolved. Newyorkbrad On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: I discovered the NPG's infringement after the article [[John Michael Wright]] was slated for TFA (due in an hour or two). As I say, I wrote

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 21 March 2011 01:21, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: (Escalation, should that fail conclusively, would probably usefully involve the blogosphere and then the media, in that order. Escalation via the media strikes me as a completely inappropriate approach even in theory.

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
Compliance, and a desire for collaboration, will of course be the best outcome here. An engraved invitation for Scott M. and guest to attend their next gala opening would also be in order. Newyorkbrad On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:25 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2011

Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony

2011-03-20 Thread Scott MacDonald
An apology would be nice. Scott -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Newyorkbrad Sent: 21 March 2011 01:28 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] NPG copyright irony Compliance, and a desire for

[WikiEN-l] Free Credo Reference accounts for Wikipedians

2011-03-20 Thread Sarah
Another 400 free Credo Reference accounts have been made available for Wikipedians, kindly donated by the company and arranged by Erik Möller of the Wikimedia Foundation. We've drawn up some eligibility criteria to direct the accounts to content contributors, and after that it's first come, first