[WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Scott MacDonald
According to our article [[Facepalm]], this is a startrek internet meme indicating an expression of embarrassment, frustration, disbelief, disgust, shame or general woe. It often expresses mockery or disbelief of perceived idiocy. Well, that must be right. Given that, I am wondering why we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 October 2011 11:02, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: Granted, removing uncivil templates won't magically increase patient and constructive discussion, but I do suspect we'd still nevertheless delete {{jackass}} or {{moron}}. If people are going to mock others, we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Thomas Morton
On 3 October 2011 11:02, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: According to our article [[Facepalm]], this is a startrek internet meme indicating an expression of embarrassment, frustration, disbelief, disgust, shame or general woe. It often expresses mockery or disbelief of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread WereSpielChequers
I wouldn't judge it on the connotations, I'd judge it on the use. Self deprecatory such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Richard_Winters is fine. Some of the other times it has been used are more troubling, but is it any worse than some of the intemperate language we sometimes see? I'd prefer

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Scott MacDonald
Now on TFD, suggest we take it there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_Oct ober_3#Template:Facepalm -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l- boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard Sent:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: Granted, removing uncivil templates won't magically increase patient and constructive discussion, but I do suspect we'd still nevertheless delete {{jackass}} or {{moron}}. If people are going to mock others, we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Rob Schnautz
Usually when I facepalm it's because I have a moment, not someone else... I believe [[WP:DICK]] is a bigger issue than {{facepalm}} at the moment Bob On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Scott MacDonald

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Scott MacDonald
-Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l- boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Schnautz Sent: 03 October 2011 19:25 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm? Usually when I facepalm it's because I have a moment, not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Scott MacDonald wrote: I've never understood people's problem with WP:DICK. Because invokin g it is equivalent to calling the other person a dick. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread James Forrester
On 3 October 2011 13:06, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Scott MacDonald wrote: I've never understood people's problem with WP:DICK. Because invoking it is equivalent to calling the other person a dick. One of the fun things we wrote into the policy right from the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread James Forrester
On 3 October 2011 15:37, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, so someone pulling [[WP:DICK]] on someone else is something I can take to Arbcom? Arbcom is gonna be pretty busy if I start reporting every time I see it doneand I can't see it going very far with Arbcom or

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
Wait, so someone pulling [[WP:DICK]] on someone else is something I can take to Arbcom? Arbcom is gonna be pretty busy if I start reporting every time I see it doneand I can't see it going very far with Arbcom or with AN/Iconsidering how many people back it as one of the three most

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Phil Nash
James Forrester wrote: On 3 October 2011 15:37, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, so someone pulling [[WP:DICK]] on someone else is something I can take to Arbcom? Arbcom is gonna be pretty busy if I start reporting every time I see it doneand I can't see it going

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Risker
On 3 October 2011 16:06, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Scott MacDonald wrote: I've never understood people's problem with WP:DICK. Because invokin g it is equivalent to calling the other person a dick. Every day, I see perfectly civil people facepalming. I