[WikiEN-l] Introducing Sztakipedia

2011-12-13 Thread Mihály Héder
Hello, please try out Sztakipedia toolbar, which might save you some time while editing wiki! The 90 sec intro video explains everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VW0TrvXpl4 alternatively, please check out the home page of the tool: http://pedia.sztaki.hu, for installation instructions,

Re: [WikiEN-l] A reader's experience with The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Morris
On Dec 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote: While the design and user interface of Wikipedia certainly has things that could stand improvement, I generally like the fact that it's not run by a billion dollar budget commercial outfit brimming with meddlesome marketing

[WikiEN-l] Ad banners are a bad user interface

2011-12-13 Thread Ken Arromdee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN#Peggy_Meggars_.28archeologist.29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive139#Henry_Hardy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive138#Stephen_O.27Doherty

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ad banners are a bad user interface

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 15:52, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: Four *separate* incidents where users mistook the fundraising banner ad for an illustration that is part of the article. We've had a few at OTRS too... -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ad banners are a bad user interface

2011-12-13 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: Four *separate* incidents where users mistook the fundraising banner ad for an illustration that is part of the article. As is usual for lousy user interfaces, a lot of us are probably going to blame this on the user

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ad banners are a bad user interface

2011-12-13 Thread Steven Walling
I've actually gotten email where people think I wrote the article on which my banner appeared. And I would bet Brandon, Susan, and others who aren't Jimmy have gotten the same. The nice thing about our banners is that they don't look like horrifically ugly and annoying ads. It also appears that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ad banners are a bad user interface

2011-12-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
Only one of those four confused users is clearly confused by a fundraising banner. With the other three, that's just a guess. It may be a very plausible guess, but I think we need more than guesses before we change the way we fundraise. On Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net

[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitext-l] Help us test the VisualEditor prototype

2011-12-13 Thread David Gerard
-- Forwarded message -- From: Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org Date: 13 December 2011 21:27 Subject: [Wikitext-l] Help us test the VisualEditor prototype To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikitext-l wikitex...@lists.wikimedia.org Here's the demo,