[WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Steven Zhang
So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a particular day were on one page, and people could come along and approve or

Re: [WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread yutsi
On 8/17/2012 7:36 AM, Steven Zhang wrote: So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a particular day were on one page,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17 August 2012 12:36, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote: So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Articles for Creation broken

2012-08-17 Thread Katie Chan
On 17/08/2012 12:36, Steven Zhang wrote: So, I had a look at articles for creation today, and there was nearly 1,000 pending article submissions. Articles for creation has changed a lot since 2008 - it was of a similar structure to XFD - all submissions for a particular day were on one page,

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Newyorkbrad
I've collected a few of these over the years, in preparation for an article I've never found the time to write ... here's another example from earlier this year where the majority and dissenting opinions differ over the propriety of a Wikipedia citaiton:

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
In the concurring opinion, Judge Voros says that getting a sense of the common usage or ordinary and plain meaning of a contract term is precisely the purpose for which the lead opinion here cites Wikipedia. Our reliance on this source is therefore, in my judgment, appropriate. On this, he is

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Newyorkbrad
I didn't realize it until just now, but we (En-WP) have articles about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_judicial_opinions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_as_a_court_source These clearly need to be updated, but might be of interest. Also of note, albeit

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: In the court's opinion judicial notice was not taken, but information obtained about common usage of the term, jet ski, used in the insurance contract. Judicial notice seems to be out of bounds under some reasoning;

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Phil Nash
- Original Message - From: Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions (Caution: the facts of the case are unpleasant.) Unpleasant is

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: And the best post I've found on the current case: http://www.volokh.com/2012/08/16/citing-wikipedia-in-court-opinions/ Am I missing something? That's just a cut and paste of the concurring opinion and a paragraph of the

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Fred Bauder
In the concurring opinion, Judge Voros says that getting a sense of the common usage or ordinary and plain meaning of a contract term is precisely the purpose for which the lead opinion here cites Wikipedia. Our reliance on this source is therefore, in my judgment, appropriate. On this, he