like good article credits. Which is a far better
system IMO.
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the police' issue
A jury for every tedious speedy deletion and page protection would result in an
impractically-large workload. In theory a very good idea though; could maybe be
implemented for some things, with basic maintenance still left to sysops or an
otherwise-empowered user.
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On 31 May 2010 20:00, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Interesting, AGK. Are the ideas important, or the personalities?
Here, you just demonstrated my concern even further.
Now I understand why you are able to write at such length. Rather than
make your arguments based on facts
in a post there, and post a summary comment here on WikiEN-l (with a
link to the concurrent blog post)? Just a thought.
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we feel with your posts, Carch :).
(I'm kidding, ofc. Your input is most valuable in part because it's so
detailed.)
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tbh.
The worst type of admin abuse is the use of tools against a user the
admin is involved with/prejudiced against. Unfortunately that kind of
abuse is the most complex, which is partly why ArbCom have the job of
dealing with it
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patrol' editors (the kind who keep
such backlogs down) of years gone by.
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creation generally, though in what way I'm unsure.
{{fact}}
In any case, he certainly has a point. Having to wade through the
nonsense that gets submitted to Wikipedia is a huge time leech.
Suggesting otherwise is silly.
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just have a pathetically short list? It seems for
completeness etc, that would be the right thing to do.
This made me laugh :)
Could you maybe merge the [[List of rivers in X]] articles for a
number of Northern Africa nations?
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a very broad community).
'Pending revisions' would be better named something like 'Pending
edits'. Not all our readers would understand what a revision is, but
the concept of edit is universal—and complements Wikipedia: The
Free Encyclopedia that anyone can *edit* perfectly.
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me is that the search function we had
until a week ago was *perfectly fine*. Seemingly to move the box from
the left of the page to the top required a (detrimental) restructure
of its basic behaviour.
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On 22 May 2010 00:36, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
Not so. The search box in classic is on the top left (as well as the
second one at the the end of the page). As far as I'm aware this
requies no changes from monobook.
I may have been being a little sarcastic :P. Sorry if I confused you.
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/Polarized_light_microscopy
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On 20 May 2010 16:13, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Spotted by Matthias:
http://www.mightaswelldance.com/blog/2010/05/how-wikipedia-kept-me-out-of-jail/
Very good :-)
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On 18 May 2010 10:46, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I think this message needs some context?
Could be an accidental post? We've had a couple of those recently.
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On 17 May 2010 16:38, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On his SharedKnowing list, Dr Sanger notes he's just joined Wikipedia
Review and heartily recommends it to all.
I can almost hear the screeching of his axe.
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. That's far
from symbolic; in fact, it essentially is him resigning rights that
the community had began to angrily demand be taken away from him.
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belongs over at Uncyclopedia (which our new logo seems to resemble a bit)
:-)
Exactly what I was trying to say :-).
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many years have passed since Jimbo's role in the project has been
more than ceremonial? Around three, as a conservative guess?
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to the developers? Suggestion: just set a firm date
and have the dev's do it by then. My understanding is that we have
some on payroll, so ultimately there's little need for a discussion if
the only benefit is more time-wasting.
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On 14 May 2010 21:17, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI. BTW, I didn't know the prototype wiki existed!
Ooh, that's nifty. I didn't know it existed either. Will they be
testing FlaggedRevs on the site, now that it's not needed for vector?
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the deletion
interface. Will, say, ctrl+alt+r bring up the changes awaiting review?
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It's not acceptable *ever*.
I was trying to do a test once and all my test articles disappeared.
It had taken a while to set up.
At that point you either just leave or wheel war and then leave.
All testing stops.
Bit of an over-reaction.
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to
recall it being quite a sound one.
I don't know what you mean to say about the watchlist arrangements.
Are you referring to the little star in place of a 'watch' tab?
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. Now, it's a bit of
an embarassing secret and you definitely would not raise it in a job
interview.
For my part I wouldn't dream about telling anybody but my closest
friends that I edit Wikipedia. More than anything, it's just very
geeky :-).
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notice this?
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the learning curve for new
editors less steep.
Basically, us set-in-our-ways old-timers aren't the target audience
for the Vector skin :-).
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aiming to compile all knowledge into one
freely-accessible location. We shouldn't infringe on that mission,
even if we displease some easily-upset persons along the way.
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What a thoroughly unpleasant business.
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I want the vector skin but not the new toolbar. (I prefer to do my
wikimarkup by hand.) Is there a way to use the new interface but the
old edit box?
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That seems like sound thinking to me. Thanks for the update, William;
it's nice to see some responsiveness.
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As of today, I'm working as a contractor at Wikimedia Foundation,
helping out with several things, one of which being the Flagged Revs
rollout.
Welcome Rob. Everybody is eager to get FlaggedRevs finished and
installed, so the speedier the work gets completed the better.
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Not that deafening whinging when it goes live is not 100% guaranteed
no matter how much work is done first ;-p
Course. That's all but a given with our community, isn't it? :)
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It's probably a feature. If not, we need to work out how to make it into one.
Special:Complain? Extension:Whine?
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(Oh god, MediaWiki humour. I'm at a new low.)
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I archived the original post without reply because the message being
forwarded was so full of indefinite terms that I wasn't sure exactly
what was being said. I do hope that the WMF is not growing fond of
waffly terminology.
Keep it simple, and all that.
AGK
What I discovered was that Wikipedia trumps Britanncia all the time because
its articles are in more depth and provide better references. And the site
design means that Wikipedia is easily navigable and focuses on the content,
whereas Britannica’s site assaults the eyes with distractions.
Not
Um, why are we giving Brion such a hard time? If his message didn't provide
enough details, then a polite request for clarification would be in order;
on the contrary, however, some of the replies to his post were just plain
rude. I do miss the days when we all played nice.
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Brian, not Brion. :-)
Oops - I misread.
My comment stands. ;)
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) - and so the problems posed by only one party to
a disagreement subscribing wouldn't be a hinderance to operations on the
list.
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Time will prove who is correct: those that say the list is a good idea, or a
bad one. Let's be proactive - rather than bicker and debate endlessly (in
the exhaustive yet courteous manner that only Wikipedians are able to).
Respectfully,
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but, by
virtue of its in-depth indexes of law articles, is useful for identifying
articles that need improvement.
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Reading everybody's accounts of how they came to join Wikipedia is always an
interesting experience!
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etiquette I should be aware of?
Emily
Welcome to the list, Emily!
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edited, now
that I think about it.
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of online contributors?
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. Now he was being burned by it.
Wikipedia isn't about free speech, but about collating all human knowledge.
That is a misconception shared by all levels of society, from professors of
law to bored 13-year-olds defacing their high school's article.
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is correct: electoral deceit is scandalous.
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I must confess to growing weary of this bickering. Perhaps you both could
take your differences off-list, lest you render this thread useless?
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I don't have a congressional representative, thank you very much...
Nor do I. :)
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incorrect information
about how we operate.
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had their
+sysop flag removed).
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of a nice helping of sensationalism.
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To be fair on that last point, they hear we resolve disputes and they
know there are hundreds of disputes a week. They just don't have the
awareness AC doesn't solve 99% of them :)
The argument stands: the Daily Mail are printing gross inaccuracies, and
it's harming our public image.
AGK
The Daily Mail is notorious in the United Kingdom for its somewhat
sensationalist reporting. I am doubtful that the reporter tried too hard to
establish facts that would have closed down an opportunity to smear a Labour
Party politician.
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Aaron,
Could the automatic installation section not simply be removed from the
install.html page?
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In The News section and Wikinews doesn't help matters; cf., recent
WikiEN-l thread on the two.)
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external organisations making available to the
public material that would be more accessible to intellectual circles during
the pre-Internet era.
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Please see WT:NOT, WT:FICT, and the AFD logs. You'll have a lot of reading
to do to catch up on this, but there is one helpful factor: it is endlessly
repetitive.
Heh, thank you.
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the impression, from projects such as Knol, that
Google is something of an admirer of the Wikipedia model.
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to a
problem that doesn't exist.
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any changes to the code.
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I would, however, urge everyone to use the manual installation process.
I don't think it's good form to ask people for their credentials on another
site. Indeed, it is forbidden (actively prohibited) for those with
Toolserver accounts to do this.
I'm with Sam on this one.
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as an interim step, until we get
on top of the problem, would be useful.
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nor the
resources to do so.
The individuals whose work is the object of the violation (i.e., the editor
who uploaded the photo) could also chase up the copyvio by means of a
private lawsuit, but obviously that isn't going to happen.
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their levels of professionalism and if the project's
administrators continue to be vigilant for problematic conduct.
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editor's vigilance).
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that
enables one to do that. Is it VoiceOfAll's?
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