Re: [WikiEN-l] A Wikipedian asked to write for a paper encyclopedia

2012-01-20 Thread wiki
-Original Message- To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A Wikipedian asked to write for a paper encyclopedia http://savageminds.org/2012/01/19/wikipedia-encyclopedias/ - d. Note that citing references is forbidden; proof Wikipedia is not a real encyclopedia.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletionist wanted for hire

2011-02-06 Thread wiki
articles created are a different matter - it is inevitably vanity or promotion. Scott PS Can anyone tell me how to stop the system attributing my posts to Wiki? Or how to stop it top-posting? (Technical ignorance.) -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-05 Thread wiki
. If the crowd want to create their collaborative mess, then this is to be preferred, and the FA with his superior article must necessarily go elsewhere. I've always found the problem with Wikipedia is that it has components which usually work remarkably well together (wiki, open editing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-04 Thread wiki
On 4 February 2011 01:32, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: One is expected to use sound editorial judgment. Using British tabloids for a biography of a living person falls outside that remit. One is expected to have some familiarity with what is an appropriate source for the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-04 Thread wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchredirs=1search=t hesun.co.uk+%22Living+people%22fulltext=Searchns0=1title=Special%3ASearch advanced=1fulltext=Advanced+search 'Nuff said. Scott -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-04 Thread wiki
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Fred Bauder wrote: Clearly there are issues. I'm on Jimbo's side with this though. Some of my earliest edit wars were over whether The People's Republic of China could be described in the introduction as a totalitarian dictatorship. What has currently been hit on is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})

2011-02-04 Thread wiki
You've certainly framed the issue, but there are four lights. http://videosift.com/video/How-many-lights-do-you-see-Captain-Great-Picard- Moment Fred Hm, yes but {{citation needed}}. Otherwise it just comes down to my reality is better than yours and either brute force, or attrition posing as

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors}

2011-02-03 Thread wiki
I'm sorry, but if I see somebody starting to source information from such tabloids you mentioned, especially information on biographies of living people regarding stuff that is not confirmed, there are going to be problems with me.-MuZemike All well in theory, but have you looked? The Daily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors} - repost

2011-02-01 Thread wiki
at 4:07 PM, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: A leader(ship) would find it easier to say thank you, you're right, we should do this, but please could you tone it down a bit. I thought that is what (some) arbitrators *did* say to you! Maybe the message got garbled in the transmission

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors} - repost

2011-02-01 Thread wiki
My own simple solution would be to elect a policy advisory committee *The PAC would only consider policy areas, and only as a last resort, where the status-quo did not enjoy evident consensus, but where repeated community attempts to resolve the problem had proved futile. *The PAC by majority

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Leadership (was NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors} - repost

2011-02-01 Thread wiki
in Wikipedia contributors} - repost On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: 1)  the qualities one needs to get anything done in Wikipedia are generally, tenacity and bullheadedness. Drawing enough attention to the issue and breaking through the natural apathy and inertia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-16 Thread wiki
I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader as a deranged vendetta. Are you suggesting all criticism is a mark of either hatred or insanity - or both? That line of defending leaders against criticism has a somewhat unsavoury history. What happened here is that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was Hello world?)

2011-01-14 Thread wiki
So Jimmy's claim that the first edit was Hello world! isn't to be taken literally? It is simply a totem. If you want to be cruel you call it a sound-bite which takes liberty with reality, if you want to be kind you call it a foundation-myth which serves to encapsulate the ethos and meaning of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Eschatology and Wikipedia

2010-12-22 Thread wiki
I see where you're coming from Tony, but ultimately, you can't herd cats. A campaign against jargon is only going to make minimal headway. The are some structural things that Wikipedia needs to do: 1) WYSIWYG would be fantastic, but I've no idea what that would meet in practice. Sticking to the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Eschatology and Wikipedia

2010-12-21 Thread wiki
on the preservation of the wiki-saints, which can only serve to prevent us heeding genuine prophets of future dangers. Beware the true apocalypse. Let Him That Thinketh He Standeth Take Heed Lest He Fall It would be far more profitable (or prophet-able) to seek to divine the undoubted demons ahead

Re: [WikiEN-l] Eschatology and Wikipedia

2010-12-21 Thread wiki
On competition: In terms of on-line encyclopedias Wikipedia has no effective competition. If you sit to research, you'll look at Wikipedia. If you want to contribute it will be Wikipedia. But. where we are in competition with others is for the time of the undergraduate/graduate who sits down

Re: [WikiEN-l] CZ fork: Tendrl

2010-12-11 Thread wiki
. It is ridiculous that we have the best possible article on the somewhat obscure baroque painter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Wright (yes, I wrote that single-handedly) or some bit of Italian architecture and, on the other hand, articles which suck at: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia

2010-12-03 Thread wiki
magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: This stuff will apparently show up in Amazon search results soon-ish: http://www.amazon.com/wiki/James_Joyce Interesting idea, though I find it slightly disturbing for some reason... The idea seems to be that you'll search for James Joyce, get the page, follow

Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia

2010-12-03 Thread wiki
Yeah, but my odds of getting a Kindle gratis from their benevolence are?? It's a bit like applauding the Ritz Hotel for giving away free coffee with a $150 meal. -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia

2010-12-03 Thread wiki
a Kindle. -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Carson Sent: 03 December 2010 23:04 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, wiki doc.wikipe

[WikiEN-l] WikiProject Microsoft, anyone interested?

2010-08-23 Thread Dwayne Flanders (Wiki)
on the project page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MICROSOFT. Thank you, -- User:Dwayne From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia w...@dwayneflanders.com ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Superusers?

2010-08-20 Thread Dwayne Flanders (Wiki)
: I was thinking, after the talk about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandal_fighters which doesn't terribly look like it's going anywhere, why don't we possibly bundle a few of the other userrights into one, such as my proposal below: User right: Superuser Rights included: rollback