Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Carcharoth wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose. Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all. We'll be in constant streaming twitter mode all the time. There won't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose. Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all. We'll be in constant streaming twitter

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/24 geni geni...@gmail.com: In practice the end point of Natural language processing and large scale digitalisation is likely to be made to request computer generated custom articles. Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Yes. Rather a lot of conversations I have with random geeks are along these lines. Basically, infoboxes = machine-readable data = good. So the way to go there would be to make template plumbing give data more amenable to chewing on. (Standardised

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:54 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/24 geni geni...@gmail.com: In practice the end point of Natural language processing and large scale digitalisation is likely to be made to request computer generated custom articles. Wikipedia with it's surprisingly

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:47:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping stone in this direction. What is the name of every celebrity born in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 wjhon...@aol.com: In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:47:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Wikipedia with it's surprisingly structured entries is likely to be used as a significant stepping stone in this direction. What is the name

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/24/2009 12:23:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Birth dates and locations tend to be fairly structured within articles so are fairly easy to get. Dealing with a term as vauge as celebrity make the task impossible even with human intervention.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-24 Thread geni
2009/8/24 wjhon...@aol.com: What about movie stars ? That's not quite as vague. Can we do that today without human intervention? People who have been in a film? Or is that too vague It can be done with say actors and actresses. Fun area since apparently it has number of closely related

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 8:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kgnp...@gmail.com writes: Right well, I'll start brushing up on my Breton and by the time I get around to learning Vietnamese the sun will have obliterated the earth and Wikipedia as we know it.-- I will wager $100

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:04 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I will wager $100 that Wikipedia will be gone long before the sun turns into a Red Giant. I hope Wikipedia at least outlives me. I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 11:24:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time because I envision it collapsing, dying, being fatally attacked or somesuch.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Keegan Paul
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2009 11:24:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time because I envision it collapsing,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The content of Wikipedia, like malaria, is here to stay.  It's been copied so many times by now, that nothing can eradicate it. Wikipedia itself however probably won't live more than ten more years at the most :) In twenty years, we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Emily Monroe
but why do you think that Wikipedia as a non-profit wouldn't be a part of that? You mean the Wikimedia foundation? Emily On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The content of Wikipedia, like malaria, is here to stay. It's

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Tony Sidaway
Of course the whole reason you'd want to put a reference to Vienna into the article on Vienne is that it's a French name, and if you happen to be reading a French text using Wikipedia as a reference it might be useful for you to know that the name Vienne may sometimes refer to a foreign capital.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/23/2009 1:59:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: Do you think it would be hopelessly superseded by brain implants that give us access to all knowledge all of the time? Who's to say that that knowledge wouldn't be provided by Wikipedia?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose.  Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all.  We'll be in constant streaming twitter mode all the time.  There won't be articles per se,

[WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread stevertigo
carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna Shouldn't it be [[Vienne]]? With the lede starting out '''Vienne''' (English spelling: Vienna), is a city... A bit off topic, but I'd love to throw down and start an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:43 AM, stevertigostv...@gmail.com wrote: carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna Shouldn't it be [[Vienne]]? With the lede starting out  '''Vienne''' (English spelling: Vienna), is a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread Keegan Paul
Meanwhile, back on the English Wikipedia, a bot has added loads of interwikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vienne_(disambiguation)diff=309530294oldid=309522639 I wonder if all those are correct or not? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 6:44:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stv...@gmail.com writes: How is it claimed that we are bound to English spelling only, and yet permit all the Nordic, Germanic, and French characters* - few of which most *English* speakers know the pronunciation of. (*?)

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 8:04:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: Will, is this genealogy webpage reliable at all? http://gilles.maillet.free.fr/histoire/famille_bourgogne/famille_vienne.htm Well one thing I always caution