Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 13 June 2012 14:14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I ask because next Wednesday I will be the Wikipedian at an episode of the CIPR TV webcast[1]. Basically a podcast with a camera. I have my

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 June 2012 11:53, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: (God I look my age. The ponytail is going!) Mmm ... with Gemma Griffiths ... yes she beats you on hairdo. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Not bad David! I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of interest, or are Larry Page himself, and would have thought this is generally

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 June 2012 12:35, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad David! I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2012 12:35, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of interest, or are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:35:43 +0200, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what Even if you can find a Reliable Source [tm] for it? -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips:

[WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread David Gerard
Is there any collected consensus on PR editing or is it all still a lot of shouting? I'm not asking for your own opinions, but if there's anywhere this is being discussed in some sort of abstractable manner. I ask because next Wednesday I will be the Wikipedian at an episode of the CIPR TV

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread geni
On 13 June 2012 14:14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any collected consensus on PR editing or is it all still a lot of shouting? I'm not asking for your own opinions, but if there's anywhere this is being discussed in some sort of abstractable manner. Came up at the London

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 14:14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: They're also interested in https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_best_practice_guidelines_for_PR which is a how-not-to-foul-up guide put together by WMUK. But of course that's descriptive and not normative. I think a line you could

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 June 2012 15:51, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2012 14:14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any collected consensus on PR editing or is it all still a lot of shouting? I'm not asking for your own opinions, but if there's anywhere this is being discussed in some

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Morris
On 13 June 2012 15:51, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Came up at the London meetup. Opinion ranges talking to PR people to injecting formic acid into their eyeballs. So I'm going to stay we are still at the lot of shouting stage. Following on from that discussion, one thing I think I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread FT2
I had to explain this once, and my notes read something like this: Skilled PR people know there's a story to tell. They think in terms of the story. But Wikipedia is a neutral source. We think in terms of significant facts. So there's a fundamental new kind of writing style and filter of what

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-13 Thread Carcharoth
On 6/13/12, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: If instead of saying what do we think of PR people editing Wikipedia? we said under what circumstances should administrators act on the requests of PR people?, I think we might have a way out of the conundrum. One small correction there.