Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com: I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt our style and policies. In short: Wikipedia Works. NPOV is our key innovation. Much more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Oskar Sigvardsson
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is our key innovation. Much more radical than letting anyone edit the website. Two things which, incidentally, go hand in hand. NPOV would be virtually impossible to achieve without open and public debate about every

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com: I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt our style and policies. In short: Wikipedia Works. NPOV is our key innovation. Much

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is our key innovation. Much more radical than letting anyone edit the website. Two things which, incidentally, go hand in hand. NPOV would be virtually impossible to achieve without open and public debate about every

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
Yes, but failures to present a complete spectrum of points of view can be balanced by including a NPOV article imported from Wikipedia. Or, indeed, by linking to the editorial pages of major newspapers from an NPOV article *on* Wikipedia... -- That would be true if it were not for the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Sam Korn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Yes, but failures to present a complete spectrum of points of view can be balanced by including a NPOV article imported from Wikipedia. Or, indeed, by linking to the editorial pages of major newspapers from an NPOV

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/5 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net: The obvious alternative is to allow point of view editing but structure the wiki to include articles from diverse points of view, not an innovation, editorial pages of major newspapers are typically structured in that way. I'd say that's not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Ray Saintonge
Sam Korn wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Sam Korn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Sam Korn wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:13:23 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder wrote: Wikipedia works like Wall Street works, Not exactly the most auspicious example to use these days... -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/4 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis citizendium. I don't. Citizendium can't harm Wikipedia, but Wikipedia could harm Citizendium. And that would be bad.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-04 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/4 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis citizendium. I don't. Citizendium can't harm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-04 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: 2009/4/4 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis citizendium. I don't. Citizendium can't harm Wikipedia, but Wikipedia could harm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-04 Thread doc
Ray Saintonge wrote: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: I do however in the larger scheme of things think that having a credible fork of the English wikipedia at this stage of its life-cycle wouldn't be counter-productive, ghod knows somebody needs to keep it honest. But I have very little hope of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-04 Thread doc
geni wrote: 2009/4/4 doc doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com: Contributors could be offered motivation in things like 1) promises of ad-revenue share. 2) meaningful attribution, where you can personally take the kudos of writing a superb article into the real world (CV etc.). 3) Ability to publish

[WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread David Gerard
http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ - d. 'I think the whole debate is silly. Ironically, I think Larry is given too little credit for his role in the early days of Wikipedia as the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ A very nice and reflective interview, waxing philosophical. The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread David Goodman
Very few academics are actually good textbook writers; they usually need extensive help from editors who know the art. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Scientia Potentia est
Sounds a lot like Simple English Wikipedia. bibliomaniac15 --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, April 3, 2009