Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I had thought we'd formally policyized the please leave blocked users alone on their talk page and don't block them if they vent about the block (short of making threats against people, etc), but I can't find anything

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread FT2
This has come up a number of times (as GWH says). We aim to avoid a block - uncivil - extend block - more uncivil cycle. As best I recall, the point is that users who rant against the blocking admin for blocking them, or against Wikipedia generally, or about the unfairness of the block, or even

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread FT2
Such an approach may be better than extending the block, since it prevents them acting up while blocked... Better: *Such an approach may be better than extending the block, since it prevents them acting up and creating a spiral of increased problems for themselves while they are blocked. * In

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread Durova
Actually, a current poll is running 38-18 in favor of treating talk page incivility the same as incivility anywhere else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility/Poll#Should_a_user.27s_own_talk_page_be_considered_differently.3F -Durova On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:58 AM, FT2

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread Carcharoth
The question being discussed there is: Should a user's own talk page be considered differently? There has been discussion in past as to whether a post on a user's talk page, often in reply to a hostile poster, should be treated more leniently than posting elsewhere on other discussion or WP pages

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-08 Thread Fred Bauder
The question being discussed there is: Should a user's own talk page be considered differently? There has been discussion in past as to whether a post on a user's talk page, often in reply to a hostile poster, should be treated more leniently than posting elsewhere on other discussion or WP

[WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-07 Thread George Herbert
I had thought we'd formally policyized the please leave blocked users alone on their talk page and don't block them if they vent about the block (short of making threats against people, etc), but I can't find anything on-wiki that has it in writing. I know I've had discussions with people about

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-07 Thread Fred Bauder
I had thought we'd formally policyized the please leave blocked users alone on their talk page and don't block them if they vent about the block (short of making threats against people, etc), but I can't find anything on-wiki that has it in writing. I know I've had discussions with people

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Sawczynec
Actually, I was under the impression that our policy was essentially the opposite -- I certainly wouldn't tolerate a long rant about a block on a user's talk page. We tell blocked users to make their unblock requests succinct and neutral, and we disable the option to post to a talk page if the