Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Fred Bauder
> In the concurring opinion, Judge Voros says that "getting a sense of > the common usage or ordinary and plain meaning of a contract term is > precisely the purpose for which the lead opinion here cites Wikipedia. > Our reliance on this source is therefore, in my judgment, > appropriate." > > On

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > And the best post I've found on the current case: > > http://www.volokh.com/2012/08/16/citing-wikipedia-in-court-opinions/ Am I missing something? That's just a cut and paste of the concurring opinion and a paragraph of the ruling. _

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Phil Nash
- Original Message - From: "Newyorkbrad" To: "English Wikipedia" Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions (Caution: the facts of the case are unpleasant.) "Unpleasant" is relative. B

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > In the court's opinion judicial notice was not taken, but information > obtained about common usage of the term, "jet ski," used in the insurance > contract. Judicial notice seems to be out of bounds under some reasoning; > doubtless I do not

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Newyorkbrad
I didn't realize it until just now, but we (En-WP) have articles about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_judicial_opinions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_as_a_court_source These clearly need to be updated, but might be of interest. Also of note, albeit

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony
In the concurring opinion, Judge Voros says that "getting a sense of the common usage or ordinary and plain meaning of a contract term is precisely the purpose for which the lead opinion here cites Wikipedia. Our reliance on this source is therefore, in my judgment, appropriate." On this, he is g

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-17 Thread Newyorkbrad
I've collected a few of these over the years, in preparation for an article I've never found the time to write ... here's another example from earlier this year where the majority and dissenting opinions differ over the propriety of a Wikipedia citaiton: http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-16 Thread Fred Bauder
>> Making the blog-rounds, there was a Utah court case that includes >> surprisingly lengthy (and generally positive) discussion on whether and >> when to cite Wikipedia in court decisions: >> >> * http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/appopin/fire_insurance081612.pdf >> >> See footnote 1 (page 5) in th

Re: [WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-16 Thread Fred Bauder
> Making the blog-rounds, there was a Utah court case that includes > surprisingly lengthy (and generally positive) discussion on whether and > when to cite Wikipedia in court decisions: > > * http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/appopin/fire_insurance081612.pdf > > See footnote 1 (page 5) in the major

[WikiEN-l] on citing Wikipedia in U.S. court opinions

2012-08-16 Thread Mark
Making the blog-rounds, there was a Utah court case that includes surprisingly lengthy (and generally positive) discussion on whether and when to cite Wikipedia in court decisions: * http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/appopin/fire_insurance081612.pdf See footnote 1 (page 5) in the majority opini