Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-09-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:39:40 +0100 From: Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference? Shortly after I thought we'd finally killed off the habit of excessive polling, an apologetic, humorous and evidently quite common meme appeared

Re: [WikiEN-l] voting

2009-09-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
From: Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference? On 8/28/09, Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com wrote: Polling and voting is a good way to see what people think without having to wade through a mass of comments

[WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Tony Sidaway
Shortly after I thought we'd finally killed off the habit of excessive polling, an apologetic, humorous and evidently quite common meme appeared on Wikipedia: the !vote. Unlike the vote, the !vote seems to afford the author the latitude to falsely claim that he is opposed to polls and is not in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Emily Monroe
I'm seeing ban discussions on [[WP:AN]] being turned into polls, and attempts to undo this are resisted by people who apparently believe they're following Wikipedia policy. I tend to avoid [[WP:AN]]--I don't need moar dramah--but if this is true, then it shouldn't be happening. Emily On

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/28 Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com: It's 2009. Why is this happening? Because voting is the only practical way of a large number of people making a decision. The policies date back to when we were a small project and could actually discuss things and reach a consensus, that just isn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Bennett
Tony Sidawaytonysida...@gmail.com wrote: Shortly after I thought we'd finally killed off the habit of excessive polling, an apologetic, humorous and evidently quite common meme appeared on Wikipedia: the !vote. Unlike the vote, the !vote seems to afford the author the latitude to falsely

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Al Tally
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com wrote: Shortly after I thought we'd finally killed off the habit of excessive polling, an apologetic, humorous and evidently quite common meme appeared on Wikipedia: the !vote. Unlike the vote, the !vote seems to afford the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 8/28/09, Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com wrote: Polling and voting is a good way to see what people think without having to wade through a mass of comments. If you can't be bothered to engage in discussion, I agree that voting or !voting is the way to go. You can't build consensus by

Re: [WikiEN-l] Voting and !voting, what's the difference?

2009-08-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/28 Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com: Sure, but that's not what the phrase is actually used to mean. What does it mean then? In the context of RFA? It means a vote with a required supermajority of 75% with some obviously invalid votes discounted and on very rare occasions (getting rarer