Apropos nothing in particular: Facebook must die.
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On 4 December 2010 11:38, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> Lots of people mirror Wikipedia, or parts of it, is Amazon doing
> anything different? If not have we brought this to their attention?
The copyright reuse is probably OK, maybe with little details around
the edges. The point of free content i
We can't blame Amazon if they take "You should not cite any particular
author or authors" literally. I suspect they've read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content they
seem to be complying with the bit about linking to our articles.
Lots of people mirror Wikipedia, or par
The citation for wikipedia according to wikipedia would look like this:
James Joyce. (2010, December 3). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.
Retrieved 10:24, December 4, 2010, from
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Joyce&oldid=400394336
see
:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl
As Magnus said, I had also the idea of incorporate amazon affiliate
some months ago but I'm not sure if it will change the status of
Wikipedia as a non-profit organization. Since amazon pages are
sometimes used as a reliable source for information about books, CDs,
etc. To successfully take advanta
On 03/12/10 13:09, Magnus Manske wrote:
> This stuff will apparently show up in Amazon search results soon-ish:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/wiki/James_Joyce
>
> Interesting idea, though I find it slightly disturbing for some reason...
>
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What really bothers me about it is that there is no direct link to the
revision history. The authors aren't attributed unless you go to the linked
WP page, and there is nothing that even hints at that.
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> A Kindle costs money? Yes.
> Thus it is sold for money? Yes.
Actually no. The download is free.
Fred
User: Fred Bauder
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When I clicked on the Wikipedia link at the top of the article it took
me to the article on Wikipedia.
I hope that this brings us some extra editors, I'm sure it will bring
us an unknown number of extra viewers.
WeeSpielChequers
On 3 December 2010 16:22, David Gerard wrote:
> On 3 December 2010
buy a Kindle.
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On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, wiki wrote:
&
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, wiki wrote:
> Yeah, but my odds of getting a Kindle gratis from their benevolence are??
>
> It's a bit like applauding the Ritz Hotel for giving away free coffee with a
> $150 meal.
A Kindle is a physical object that costs money to produce. Hence they are
sold for
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On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Peter Coombe
wrote:
>
> Also on the example page linked (James Joyce) you can of course just
> scroll down to the Project Gutenberg link and g
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Peter Coombe wrote:
>
> Also on the example page linked (James Joyce) you can of course just
> scroll down to the Project Gutenberg link and get most of his works
> for free! Although they did think to remove the Wikisource link.
To be fair, for the works of James
> To Magnus' suggestion -- they would have no real motivation to divert
> some of their margin to Wikipedia, would they? I'm not sure
> attributing the content to Wikipedia, and using Wikimedia marks for
> that purpose, would fall far enough afoul of trademark law to give the
> WMF a lot of leverag
speaking from a user and an editor having relevant books show up,
or ideally even references be halfway automated found, or plagiarism
detected based on amazon comparing books to articles would be welcome.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Nathan wrote:
> To Magnus' suggestion -- they would have no
To Magnus' suggestion -- they would have no real motivation to divert
some of their margin to Wikipedia, would they? I'm not sure
attributing the content to Wikipedia, and using Wikimedia marks for
that purpose, would fall far enough afoul of trademark law to give the
WMF a lot of leverage. And in
No, they don't seem to be hotlinking. Their images and links are on their
own server - though they show an option to go to the Wikipedia page too.
They've even replaced fair use images with links to Wikipedia's file page.
I'm no expert, but it looks kosher to me. At most maybe a disclaimer that
th
On 3 December 2010 14:06, Erik Moeller wrote:
> We were not consulted, and are currently fully examining this. It is not
> official or endorsed by us.
>
> Erik
I quite like the idea, but the current implementation does seem a bit
dubious in terms of trademark use. As a big company with copious
la
On 3 December 2010 15:15, Magnus Manske wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>> We were not consulted, and are currently fully examining this. It is not
>> official or endorsed by us.
> Thanks for clarifying.
Are they hotlinking? We could redirect all accesses to
http:
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> We were not consulted, and are currently fully examining this. It is not
> official or endorsed by us.
Thanks for clarifying.
Now, here is an idea we might be able to turn this on its head to our
advantage (warning, radical notion ahead):
1.
Could you describe what that looks like, for those that avoid Facebook
like the plague? Maybe do so in a new thread so this one can stay on
topic with the Amazon stuff?
Carcharoth
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Mike Dupont
wrote:
> Facebook also has the community pages based on wikipedia as we
On 3 December 2010 13:54, wiki wrote:
>
> Contrary to the description, this is not a Wikipedia page at all. The page
> has no relationship to Wikipedia. This is an *Amazon* page validly using CC
> free material that has come from Wikipedia. It is reasonable to presume that
> the casual reader migh
> This stuff will apparently show up in Amazon search results soon-ish:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/wiki/James_Joyce
>
> Interesting idea, though I find it slightly disturbing for some reason...
>
"Shopping-enabled Wikipedia Page" Their mouse over was not yet
functioning when I tried it., "Loading,
Facebook also has the community pages based on wikipedia as well. I
assume you know about that.
mike
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> We were not consulted, and are currently fully examining this. It is not
> official or endorsed by us.
>
> Erik
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d over this, and what the lawyers
think.
Scott
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[mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Gray
Sent: 03 December 2010 13:31
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia
On 3 December
On 3 December 2010 13:09, Magnus Manske wrote:
> This stuff will apparently show up in Amazon search results soon-ish:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/wiki/James_Joyce
>
> Interesting idea, though I find it slightly disturbing for some reason...
The idea seems to be that you'll search for James Joyce,
Great stuff! people who looked at this article will likely look at
this one? add to cart!
mike
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Magnus Manske
wrote:
> This stuff will apparently show up in Amazon search results soon-ish:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/wiki/James_Joyce
>
> Interesting idea, though I fin
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