Re: [WikiEN-l] Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it suppliedmisinformation...

2009-08-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/22 Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com: You may be too young to remember that it was the Homecoming Queen whose Got A Gun I did it... for Johnny! Yeah, I didn't get that at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hxCpAdCJI - d. ___

[WikiEN-l] I suppose it's not good to make fun of physics cranks

2009-08-22 Thread David Gerard
http://atomicprecision.wordpress.com/ http://atomicprecision.wordpress.com/about_aias/ So standard physics is a morasse of unprovable assumptions, unobservables, and blatantly incorrect theory. By now it comes as no surprise that wikipedia suppresses all the flaws. It is in the interest of their

Re: [WikiEN-l] I suppose it's not good to make fun of physics cranks

2009-08-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: So standard physics is a morasse of unprovable assumptions, unobservables, and blatantly incorrect theory. By now it comes as no surprise that wikipedia suppresses all the flaws. It is in the interest of their “moderators”

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this out the other day; it's a very cool idea, but by and large, it seems that this hacker doesn't have enough CPU power to extract the really good wikilinks, the ones that aren't already linked inside the

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this out the other day; it's a very cool idea, but by and large, it seems that this hacker doesn't have enough CPU power to extract the

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Amory Meltzer
I have a feeling a lot of those are duplications of templates placed on a page - Macbeth linking to Romeo and Juliet (and vice versa) was my first example. Multiple search terms would seem to be the real place this would be useful, to minimize crossover from templates. ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread Amory Meltzer
Duplicating the function of templates - maybe not the best word to use. A better one might be misinterpreting. ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 14:36, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amory Meltzer amorymelt...@gmail.com wrote: I have a feeling a lot of

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 10:56:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dger...@gmail.com writes: Because there is no need to determine what the meaning of the particular term or keyword is, the pages it returns generally deal with the same concept or concepts that you entered. For instance, if you

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tony Sidawaytonysida...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/21 Tony Sidaway tonysida...@gmail.com: On 8/19/09, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Does anyone else get annoyed by certain

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 12:42:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna - The Council of Vienne. Also apparently Vienne is a surname, I'm sure we can

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread David Goodman
None ever published have approached either our size or our completeness. There is no experience, and no prior basis for public acceptance or non-acceptance. We have made many assumptions about what the public wants, but the public will want different things, and why should we think we can

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread Emily Monroe
Perhaps the more rational approach is to do what our structure can do well, and let other projects in the future try other ways and other things and other goals. I think this is a great idea. Emily On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:45 PM, David Goodman wrote: Perhaps the more rational approach is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 8/22/09, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tony But you've used a two-item disambiguation *hatnote*, whereas what others (including me) would do is create a three-item disambiguation page and link that from the top of the two items in question

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Ray Saintonge
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna - The Council of Vienne. Also apparently Vienne is a surname, I'm sure we can find SOME obscure person

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread pbeaudette
You are, I believe, thinking of Vierne. Philippe --Original Message-- From: Ray Saintonge Sender: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org To: English Wikipedia ReplyTo: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes Sent: Aug 22, 2009 4:48 PM wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Ray Saintonge
pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: You are, I believe, thinking of Vierne. Thanks. I figured it out afterwards, but too late. Ec The Council of Vienne. Also apparently Vienne is a surname, I'm sure we can find SOME obscure person named Vienne I have a vague recollection of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tony Sidawaytonysida...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/22/09, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tony But you've used a two-item disambiguation *hatnote*, whereas what others (including me) would do is create a three-item

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2009 12:42:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna - The Council of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: sniiip Now I'm off to dump all this on Vienne (disambiguation) and then I'll go and moan at WikiProject Disambiguation about how one can't be expected go through all the 500+ links pointing at Vienne to see if any

[WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread stevertigo
carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna Shouldn't it be [[Vienne]]? With the lede starting out '''Vienne''' (English spelling: Vienna), is a city... A bit off topic, but I'd love to throw down and start an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:43 AM, stevertigostv...@gmail.com wrote: carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: *a département of France *a French river *a French city *the French name for Vienna Shouldn't it be [[Vienne]]? With the lede starting out  '''Vienne''' (English spelling: Vienna), is a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Not sure whether to include all the of Vienne or de Vienne or not. Perhaps on a separate page? Or altogether is probably fine. Hmm.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread Keegan Paul
Meanwhile, back on the English Wikipedia, a bot has added loads of interwikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vienne_(disambiguation)diff=309530294oldid=309522639 I wonder if all those are correct or not? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms

2009-08-22 Thread Ray Saintonge
Steve Bennett wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: And does Vienne actually mean anything in French? Google Translate helpfully tells me that Vienne means Vienna (yes, we knew that already). Amongst possibly other things it's the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: Although we still haven't worked out what size people will general accept as a fairly complete general encyclopedia. I think if we had almost every article you would find in a *single volume* encyclopedia up to featured or good

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tony Sidawaytonysida...@gmail.com wrote: Far worse than hatnotes, I'd say, are the ever-more-garish templates we now use for matters such as tagging for NPOV, cleanup, and so on. In my opinion we were better off when such templates produced a single line of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 6:44:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stv...@gmail.com writes: How is it claimed that we are bound to English spelling only, and yet permit all the Nordic, Germanic, and French characters* - few of which most *English* speakers know the pronunciation of. (*?)

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Carcharothcarcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Now I'm off to dump all this on Vienne (disambiguation) and then I'll go and moan at WikiProject Disambiguation about how one can't be expected go through all the 500+ links pointing at Vienne Do we not have a tool

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-22 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 8:04:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: Will, is this genealogy webpage reliable at all? http://gilles.maillet.free.fr/histoire/famille_bourgogne/famille_vienne.htm Well one thing I always caution