Re: [WikiEN-l] Massive AfC backlog

2012-06-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:25:31 + (GMT), Matthew Bowker wrote: Even through all that, I believe AfC needs to exist.  It does provide a great service to anon editors who won't create accounts for whatever reason. Are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 13 June 2012 14:14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I ask because next Wednesday I will be the Wikipedian at an episode of the CIPR TV webcast[1]. Basically a podcast with a camera. I have my

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 June 2012 11:53, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: (God I look my age. The ponytail is going!) Mmm ... with Gemma Griffiths ... yes she beats you on hairdo. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Not bad David! I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of interest, or are Larry Page himself, and would have thought this is generally

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 June 2012 12:35, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad David! I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2012 12:35, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to take a bit more of a liberal guideline on fixing obvious blatant vandalism: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what, even if you have a conflict of interest, or are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Current consensus on PR editing?

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:35:43 +0200, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead should be reverted no matter what Even if you can find a Reliable Source [tm] for it? -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program

2012-06-21 Thread Rob Schnautz
Just a reminder that this will be happening in a few minutes. Rob From: Rob Schnautz Subject: Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program The Wikimedia Foundation staff for the Wikipedia Education Program (Frank Schulenburg, Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Jami Mathewson, and I) will be hosting a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Massive AfC backlog

2012-06-21 Thread David Goodman
I've worked very often at CSD, but I have just now been taking a look at AfC, in response to the messages about the backlog. It surprised me initially to see that articles I would certainly have passed at speedy were being declined there, I was going to post a complaint about it. But then I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Massive AfC backlog

2012-06-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:56 PM, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: I've worked very often at CSD, but I have just now been taking a look at AfC, in response to the messages about the backlog. It surprised me initially to see that articles I would certainly have passed at speedy were being

Re: [WikiEN-l] Massive AfC backlog

2012-06-21 Thread David Goodman
Agreed. I did in fact have this in mind last night when I encountered the problem. But sometimes one does have to say this to a contributor. I occasionally decline a speedy, and send it or AfD , with the reason being some variant. of I think the community should decide this one/. I have a good

Re: [WikiEN-l] Massive AfC backlog

2012-06-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I often find the problem here is explaining the difference what processes are open to them, and that they are able to take those processes to its end (reject PROD, go to AfD, take it to DRV), but that it is an exceedingly bad idea, and they shouldn't do it. The lack of hard rules combined with the