Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 8:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kgnp...@gmail.com writes: Right well, I'll start brushing up on my Breton and by the time I get around to learning Vietnamese the sun will have obliterated the earth and Wikipedia as we know it.-- I will wager $100

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:04 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I will wager $100 that Wikipedia will be gone long before the sun turns into a Red Giant. I hope Wikipedia at least outlives me. I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/22/2009 11:24:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time because I envision it collapsing, dying, being fatally attacked or somesuch.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

2009-08-23 Thread Keegan Paul
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: 2009/8/21 quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com: For example, we have these pages, that are variously explicating, disambiguation, and listing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Keegan Paul
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2009 11:24:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: I do sometimes get into the mindset of thinking everything I do with Wikipedia might be a waste of time because I envision it collapsing,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The content of Wikipedia, like malaria, is here to stay.  It's been copied so many times by now, that nothing can eradicate it. Wikipedia itself however probably won't live more than ten more years at the most :) In twenty years, we

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-23 Thread geni
2009/8/23 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: Although we still haven't worked out what size people will general accept as a fairly complete general encyclopedia. I think if we had almost every article you would find in a *single

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would look as a flat page. Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote: I'm afraid *he*'ll come too early Yes, that's what I said. Apparently my fingers typed something completely different though. Steve ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-23 Thread Jay Litwyn
wjhon...@aol.com wrote in message news:cfe.5d50bcc3.37c1a...@aol.com... In a message dated 8/22/2009 10:56:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dger...@gmail.com writes: Because there is no need to determine what the meaning of the particular term or keyword is, the pages it returns generally deal

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-23 Thread Jay Litwyn
I said: It was there on link six. Turns out it was not to the wikihow site, just a use of their name. I did see it on the site, one time. Maybe google does hav scruples and leaks in those scruples, just like wikipedia. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] I suppose it's not good to make fun of physics cranks

2009-08-23 Thread Jay Litwyn
Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote in message news://news.gmane.org/3ae0a6ac0908220646v78d48fa8p9ecd3ff5c9874...@mail.gmail.com... On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: So standard physics is a morasse of unprovable assumptions, unobservables, and blatantly

[WikiEN-l] Making cluebot hungry.

2009-08-23 Thread Jay Litwyn
Subject-Was: Re: Gridlock should be impossible. Wikipedia is not censored, and obvious signs of personal attacks that nobody should hav to delete more than once are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClueBot/Source#Score_list This is where they come from, I think:

[WikiEN-l] Google harvesting TOC?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
Is this new? I searched for lom metadata (without quotes) and got: Learning object metadata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 14 Jul 2009 ... ANZ-LOM is a metadata profile developed for the education sector in Australia and New Zealand. The profile provides interpretations of ... [[IEEE

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policies, notability et al, was Request to Wikipedians for BBC...

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The way it was discussed in-project a teritiary source summarizes several secondary sources into one cohesive article. Is a work that summarises/draws on multiple news articles secondary or tertiary? I wonder, because I've considered

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policies, notability et al, was Request to Wikipedians for BBC...

2009-08-23 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/8/23 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The way it was discussed in-project a teritiary source summarizes several secondary sources into one cohesive article. Is a work that summarises/draws on multiple news articles secondary or

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-23 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote: What's so bad about encouraging howto information?  I'm sure that a lot of people would find such practical information very useful. Perhaps so, but it's not in tune with the idea of an encyclopedia, which is what we're

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Bod Notbodbodnot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd really hate to go to [[curry]] and see recipes. The sorts of spices that are often included yes. But not cooking times. If I look up [[engine]] I want to know how it functions. But I don't want to see a tutorial on how

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Emily Monroe
but why do you think that Wikipedia as a non-profit wouldn't be a part of that? You mean the Wikimedia foundation? Emily On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The content of Wikipedia, like malaria, is here to stay. It's

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/23/2009 4:53:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes: The search for bees and flowers suggests pollination. I do not see anything mindless about that. That is a human association - You're not understanding me. An article

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/23/2009 6:07:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=enq=wikihow+enlargement+penismeta= It was there on link six. It's a bit rough to complain about Wikihow in this regard. It's

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policies, notability et al, was Request to Wikipedians for BB...

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
Steve, news articles *in general* are primary sources. Here is how you can tell: Is what I'm reading the first time someone has published what I'm reading? So and so was hit by a car today -- primary source, first time published. Secondary sources collate multiple primary sources, any

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Tony Sidaway
Of course the whole reason you'd want to put a reference to Vienna into the article on Vienne is that it's a French name, and if you happen to be reading a French text using Wikipedia as a reference it might be useful for you to know that the name Vienne may sometimes refer to a foreign capital.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/23/2009 1:59:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bodnot...@gmail.com writes: Do you think it would be hopelessly superseded by brain implants that give us access to all knowledge all of the time? Who's to say that that knowledge wouldn't be provided by Wikipedia?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

2009-08-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip You silly goose.  Don't you realize that when we all have brain implants that retain a quintabyte that the internet won't exist at all.  We'll be in constant streaming twitter mode all the time.  There won't be articles per se,

[WikiEN-l] Rorchach foes strike back

2009-08-23 Thread gwern0
Complaint Over Doctor Who Posted Inkblot Test http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/business/24inkblot.html 'The doctor who helped Wikipedia publish the 10 inkblots of the Rorschach test is being investigated by his local doctors’ organization after it received complaints that his actions were