Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread James Alexander
How would the blame maps work with people editing around vandalism? For example someone either blanks the page or does extensive vandalism to it (especially over the course of a couple days or a couple users). I would imagine it would be fairly easy if the bad contributions just got rolledback but

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread FT2
I think there's a terminology issue. We cannot refer to this as a trust system, however Wikitrust brands it. We just can't. It misleads too many, and implies too much. Call it a text tracing system or a gadget to highlight text origins instead. It's a lot less glamorous, sounds alot less

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread Carcharoth
That's a very good idea. Carcharoth On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: I think there's a terminology issue. We cannot refer to this as a trust system, however Wikitrust brands it. We just can't. It misleads too many, and implies too much. Call it a text tracing

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/8/31 James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com: How would the blame maps work with people editing around vandalism? For example someone either blanks the page or does extensive vandalism to it (especially over the course of a couple days or a couple users). I would imagine it would be fairly

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread Nathan Russell
I think there's a real risk here, to be even more blunt. Calling it a trust system risks someone looking at a piece of text and saying oh, look, this is trusted, so i can -rely on this as advice before doing something dangerous/in making a medical decision/etc -use this as my sole source in

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:36 PM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: It's a lot less glamorous, sounds alot less dramatic, doesn't get the dollars - but it's got zero capability of misleading. To be honest, what exactly is the point of this thing? I've seen this kind of thing a couple of times when

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: Most people are not going to want to read a book before editing wikipedia. Your problems are: -1) Getting people to realise that it's possible to edit 0) Getting people to want to edit 1)getting people to click the edit link in

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread FT2
I'd use it in a flash. I often find it helpful when examining an article (for edit warriors and vandals, or dodgy editorship), to trace back where a given wording was introduced. I can also see it would be immensely useful to me, to be able to see which wordings were being warred over or changed

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread FT2
The problem is that while long-standing and apparently reputable author correlate with trust, they are not the same. The perception that a measure of text source and historicity is in any way a measure of trust, is a misconception we have to kill at root, burn, salt over, mercilessly counter, and

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

2009-09-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/1 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com: I think there's a terminology issue. We cannot refer to this as a trust system, however Wikitrust brands it. We just can't. It misleads too many, and implies too much. Call it a text tracing system or a gadget to highlight text origins instead. It's a lot