Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Charles Matthews
On 23/05/2011 03:56, geni wrote: On 23 May 2011 02:24, Brian J Mingusbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: When you Google for Santorum's last name this Wikipedia article is the second result. This means that people who are looking for legitimate information about him are not going to find it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Will Beback
Words coined after the names of then-living people: *Orwellian *Chauvinist *Boycott *Bowdlerize and countless others. Wikipedia can't ignore significant cultural trends for the sake of censorship and super injunctions. Nor should it be used to promote those trends. So long as we stick

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Fred Bauder
On 23/05/2011 03:56, geni wrote: On 23 May 2011 02:24, Brian J Mingusbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: When you Google for Santorum's last name this Wikipedia article is the second result. This means that people who are looking for legitimate information about him are not going to find it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Charles Matthews
On 23/05/2011 13:35, Fred Bauder wrote: This seems to combine malice and political purpose. Really it is stuff that belonged on Encyclopedia Dramatica. I take it Fred means this article or this campaign: if the latter that's obvious enough. Given a mainstream piece of coverage such as

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 23/05/2011 13:35, Fred Bauder wrote: This seems to combine malice and political purpose. Really it is stuff that belonged on Encyclopedia Dramatica. I take it Fred means this article or this campaign:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:47 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Many of the things we report on are unfortunate.  An IMF candidate who alledgedly raped a hotel maid snip Candidate? Last I looked, he was Managing Director of the IMF at the time the story broke (he is now former

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: that the situation with Twitter and a UK footballer I was looking at the wrong article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_British_super-injunction_controversy This one is more specific:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Fred Bauder
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:47 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Many of the things we report on are unfortunate.  An IMF candidate who alledgedly raped a hotel maid snip Candidate? Last I looked, he was Managing Director of the IMF at the time the story broke (he is now

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread The Cunctator
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 23/05/2011 13:35, Fred Bauder wrote: This seems to combine malice and political purpose. Really it is stuff that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:47 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Many of the things we report on are unfortunate.  An IMF candidate who alledgedly raped a hotel maid snip Candidate? Last I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Fred Bauder
We don't exist to fix the real world - we exist to report on it accurately. Many of the things we report on are unfortunate. An IMF candidate who alledgedly raped a hotel maid, a tornado that killed 89 plus people, a terrorist attack in Pakistan and several ongoing and incipient wars,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: We don't exist to fix the real world - we exist to report on it accurately.  Many of the things we report on are unfortunate.  An IMF candidate who alledgedly raped a hotel maid, a tornado that killed 89 plus people,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Ken Arromdee
I'm skeptical that we should have an article. The reason: Wikipedia is on the Internet. If Wikipedia has an article about something whose promoter specifically intends to spread it on the Internet, it is impossible to separate reporting from participation. It's a loophole in the definition of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread The Cunctator
I agree. Let's remove all content on Wikipedia about the Internet. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: I'm skeptical that we should have an article. The reason: Wikipedia is on the Internet. If Wikipedia has an article about something whose promoter

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 23 May 2011, geni wrote: When you Google for Santorum's last name this Wikipedia article is the second result. This means that people who are looking for legitimate information about him are not going to find it right away - instead we are going to feed them information about a biased

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 23 May 2011, The Cunctator wrote: The reason: Wikipedia is on the Internet. If Wikipedia has an article about something whose promoter specifically intends to spread it on the Internet, it is impossible to separate reporting from participation. It's a loophole in the definition of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Fred Bauder
I agree. Let's remove all content on Wikipedia about the Internet. My God! Larry Sanger was right! Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 23/5/11, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com On 23 May 2011 02:24, Brian J Mingusbrian.min...@colorado.edu  wrote: When you Google for Santorum's last name this Wikipedia article is the second result.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-23 Thread Tom Morris
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 21:56, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: The reason: Wikipedia is on the Internet.  If Wikipedia has an article about something whose promoter specifically intends to spread it on the Internet, it is impossible to separate reporting from participation.  It's a