Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-11 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill Carter wrote:

 Please ignore this Green Ink Day nonsense, and address the Alan
 Cabal article that has been expunged from Wikipedia's mainspace to
 its userspace for unjust reasons:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unlov
 ed_article 

Wikipedia has too many Cabals already!  :-)


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[WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread James Farrar
It seems to be Green Ink Day on the list.

*sigh*
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread Jim Redmond
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:43, purple.clou...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could you please explain?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread James Farrar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

2009/4/9 purple.clou...@gmail.com

 Could you please explain?

 On Apr 9, 2009 9:40am, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
  It seems to be Green Ink Day on the list.


  *sigh*

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread James Farrar
Snap! :)

2009/4/9 Jim Redmond j...@scrubnugget.com

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:43, purple.clou...@gmail.com wrote:

  Could you please explain?


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread Scientia Potentia est
Oddly enough the Wikipedia article makes even less sense than the original 
declaration.

bibliomaniac15

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
From: James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:59 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

2009/4/9 purple.clou...@gmail.com

 Could you please explain?

 On Apr 9, 2009 9:40am, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
  It seems to be Green Ink Day on the list.


  *sigh*

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

2009-04-09 Thread James Farrar
it is common to refer to correspondence of any kind (including email and
webpages) as being in green ink, so long as it broadly fits the following
identifying characteristics:

   - Stridency
   - Impertinence
   - Unreasonableness
   - Unrealism
   - Fancifulness
   - Obsessiveness



2009/4/9 Scientia Potentia est bibliomaniac...@yahoo.com

 Oddly enough the Wikipedia article makes even less sense than the original
 declaration.

 bibliomaniac15

 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day
 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:59 AM

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

 2009/4/9 purple.clou...@gmail.com

  Could you please explain?
 
  On Apr 9, 2009 9:40am, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
   It seems to be Green Ink Day on the list.
 
 
   *sigh*
 
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread Bill Carter
Please ignore this Green Ink Day nonsense, and address the Alan Cabal article 
that has been expunged from Wikipedia's mainspace to its userspace for unjust 
reasons: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unloved_article

Bill





From: Scientia Potentia est bibliomaniac...@yahoo.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 1:07:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day

Oddly enough the Wikipedia article makes even less sense than the original 
declaration.

bibliomaniac15

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
From: James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:59 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink

2009/4/9 purple.clou...@gmail.com

 Could you please explain?

 On Apr 9, 2009 9:40am, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
  It seems to be Green Ink Day on the list.


  *sigh*

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/9 Bill Carter billdeancar...@yahoo.com:
 Please ignore this Green Ink Day nonsense, and address the Alan Cabal article 
 that has been
 expunged from Wikipedia's mainspace to its userspace for unjust reasons:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unloved_article

For those wondering what's going on, this article has been through a
deletion discussion four times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal
(March 08)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal_(2nd_nomination)
(January 09)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal_(3rd_nomination)
(March 09)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_March_30
(DRV, March 09)

I make no comment on the merits.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread Bill Carter
NOTE: The deletion review was actually held on March 30th to April 4th or 5th. 
You made an error. Furthermore, it was speedy deleted. You CANNOT speedy delete 
an article with 40 fucking references. This is scandalous.





From: Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:38:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009/4/9 Bill Carter billdeancar...@yahoo.com:
 Please ignore this Green Ink Day nonsense, and address the Alan Cabal article 
 that has been
 expunged from Wikipedia's mainspace to its userspace for unjust reasons:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unloved_article

For those wondering what's going on, this article has been through a
deletion discussion four times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal
(March 08)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal_(2nd_nomination)
(January 09)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal_(3rd_nomination)
(March 09)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_March_30
(DRV, March 09)

I make no comment on the merits.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Bill Carter billdeancar...@yahoo.comwrote:

 NOTE: The deletion review was actually held on March 30th to April 4th or
 5th. You made an error. Furthermore, it was speedy deleted. You CANNOT
 speedy delete an article with 40 fucking references. This is scandalous.


It is not really reasonable to say the article was speedily deleted. The
third AfD debate (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alan_Cabal_(3rd_nomination))
ran for the full time, and ended in a clear delete consensus.

The article was then created again, which made a clear case of speedy
deletion under criterion G4 (recreation of previously deleted material).
Only after this was noticed and the article deleted under G4 was the AfD
close taken to deletion review. During this debate the article history was
restored so that non-admins could see the article. A further full time
debate was held. There was no consensus to overturn the close, so when the
deletion review ended the history was again deleted.

Deletion debates do not always come to the right decision, but when they
don't, it is a mistake and not a scandal. The reason for the article being
nominated for deletion was lack of notability, and not lack of references.
The problem with the references is, I suspect, that too few of them are in
the sort of mainstream publications which would make a clear case of
notability.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 4/9/2009 2:05:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
sam.blacke...@googlemail.com writes:

The  article was then created again, which made a clear case of speedy
deletion  under criterion G4 (recreation of previously deleted  material).
--
Provided the material is the same or almost the same.
Or is Bill stating that he re-wrote the article?  I'm not clear on  that 
point.
 
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