Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-17 Thread Alan Liefting
Having to delete things will be an ongoing problem because adding things is quite easy to do, so inevitably stuff that is not suitable will always be present and eventually put up for deletion. The old deletionist vs inclusionist and open vs restricted access arguments some into play. Alan

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-11 Thread Matthew Brown
The problem is not just one of fair user images. A lot of the problem (at least when I dealt with it in the past) was about freely licensed images that were deemed unfit for commons because of things like trademarks, right of panorama, privacy rights of individuals, etc. English-language

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Suggested Fix 3, this is a problem of deletionism, and the best way to deal with delietionism is to stop deleting things and seek alternate solutions. In this case Commons deletion discussions need a return to source Wiki option as opposed to deletion of files migrated from other wikis. And those

[WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread George Herbert
I have just had to deal with this - AGAIN - and would like to rail for a moment, hoping to provoke discussion to promote change. I posit that this is big enough to deserve a Foundation-wide venue for initial discussion so am including Wikitech-L. Most of us are probably familiar with the cycle:

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread geni
On 5 August 2013 08:36, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: These are not the only two possible solutions, but they come to mind immediately (and have previously when I thought of this). Additional fix concepts solicited and welcomed.

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread George Herbert
Do you want to apply that to all millionish of our local media files, or do you want me to? (ducks) George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:05 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 August 2013 08:36, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: These are

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread Alan Liefting
On 5/08/2013 7:36 p.m., George Herbert wrote: I have just had to deal with this - AGAIN - and would like to rail for a moment, hoping to provoke discussion to promote change. I posit that this is big enough to deserve a Foundation-wide venue for initial discussion so am including Wikitech-L.