[Wikimania-l] A trip to Petra after Wikimania

2011-07-05 Thread dror1975
Hi, Here are two useful links from Jordan Tourism Board: http://www.visitjordan.com/visitjordan_cms/GeneralInformation/GettingAround/BorderCrossings/tabid/105/Default.aspx - List of border crossing. My advice: Either go eastwards across the Lower Galilee from Haifa to Beit Shean, cross the

Re: [Wikimania-l] A trip to Petra after Wikimania

2011-07-05 Thread Harel Cain
Some more remarks: 1. Petra is not very close to the southern border crossing at Wadi Araba. It's a rather long 2-3 hours drive each direction from this southern point. 2. There are day tours offered by various tour organizers in Eilat at a price that I find quite reasonable, considering

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS

2011-07-05 Thread Harel Cain
Wikimania has been advertised in so many different ways till now, and for so long, that I find it a little weird to actively pursue any group of Wikipedians in person to attend the conference. Any reasonably active Wikipedian will have known by now that it's taking place in August in Haifa. The

[Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-05 Thread dror1975
I personally contacted people from the Palestinian community of Israel and spread the word in the meetings I had with Palestinians from the West Bank. People showed some interest, some of them were not too acquainted with Wikipedia and asked questions, but apparently it didn't bring them

[Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Resp. to Thomas

2011-07-05 Thread dror1975
Hello Thomas, In terms of accessibility, Israel is much more accessible to Palestinians and Jordanians than any other location suggested for Wikimania 2011. It is even more accessible to them than Alexandria, Egypt, the venue of Wikimania 2008, and I say it after I checked this matter with

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS

2011-07-05 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Dear Thomas, I think everyone is disappointed about a lower than hoped for attendance from people with these cultural backgrounds but the tone in your email is uncalled for. I am not sure what you hope to achieve by this tone or the implication. I have had the good fortune to be able to attend

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-05 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 12:44:22PM -0400, dror1...@icqmail.com wrote: It is important to note that we encountered this year unprecedented attempts to discourage people, particularly Arab people, from coming to the event. I don't blame anyone, and I respect the freedom of speech of