Hi all
I was disturbed when I read Romaine email. For all what is worth, I
would like to outline I trust Romaine meant the best, appreciate his
work for the community and the project, including what he has done
during the previous wikimanias, am sad he has been removed from the
team, and realize how unconfortable he may be right now.
This said, I realized someone felt unconfortable enough to actually
report Romaine. And that can not be dismissed.
But I think irl meetings are important moments for some of us to
actually touch, hug, kiss and I would thoroughly disappointing if this
would stop because some people feel unconfortable with physical contact.
Plus... in noisy environments, we need to get closer to one another to
understand, especially when not primarily English speaking. And this is
more unconfortable to some than to others.
So, I am thinking that... whilst some of us put little stickers on our
badges to indicate we do not want to be taken in picture, perhaps we
need to consider also little stickers to put on our badges to indicate
that we prefer "a certain physical distance" and warn others that we may
be sensitive to closeness so they be aware it might be an issue ?
Flo
PS: feel free to hug me
Le 20/07/2018 à 11:02, David Cuenca Tudela a écrit :
I don't know Romaine personally but with the limited information I
have it seems that a small series of incidents have been blown out of
proportion. It saddens me that when asking to respect diversity and
sensitivities, not all volunteers seem to have the same weight. People
taking responsibilities also need to be taken care of, we cannot ask
them to conform to fixed ideas, there should be some room to be
oneself. As John said it is necessary that we are tolerant with small
transgressions, otherwise we are creating a prison to ourselves based
on the sensitivities of others.
I only hope that this has been escalated progressively, and that there
was an open communication at all stages of the process.
Cheers,
Micru
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:37 AM Luca Martinelli
<martinellil...@gmail.com <mailto:martinellil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Il giorno ven 20 lug 2018 alle ore 10:23 Lodewijk
<lodew...@effeietsanders.org <mailto:lodew...@effeietsanders.org>>
ha scritto:
> As part of this conversation, both here online and offline, I
seem to hear several people who are unhappy with how the policy is
implemented. Let us also recognize that it is important to have a
friendly space - and that this is a Hard Thing to accomplish.
Agreeing or disagreeing in public with a decision while only
having part of the information can only make that job harder
and/or harm individuals.
>
> If you have beef with the policy and how it is implemented, I
suggest that you try to set up a meetup with the Trust & Safety
team, and you can have a conversation with them about the broader
policy. They can perhaps share some rough broader statistics as
part of that. Otherwise, it is probably more appropriate to have
this online discussion after the conference has concluded, based
on the policy and practices as a whole, and not an individual case.
First of all, I apologise for my first message, because I
misunderstood Romaine's announcement: I thought it was a voluntary
step down, not a *request* for it.
This all the more saddens me, as I have worked briefly with Romaine as
voluntary on the first day of Wikimania 2016, and I had the
opportunity of seeing first-hand how dedicated and sweet and full of
joy and energy as a volunteer he might be.
Even if I agree with Lodewijk this is not the place to "overrun" the
decision of the T&S Team, or discuss/amend/whatever Wikimania's Safe
Space Policy, I'd like to get my message considered as a public
display of thankfulness and appreciation for Romaine's work throughout
the years, not as an explicit critic to anyone - but to be fully
honest, I'm quite puzzled by the decision nonetheless.
Cheers,
--
Luca "Sannita" Martinelli
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita
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