Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
I must correct a meaningful typo: On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:42 PM Asaf Bartov wrote: > Rehman wasn't saying it's impossible, or even hard, to calculate. He was > pointing out a potential psychological benefit that would accrue to some > participants (and I can attest they exist) who may *not*

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-18 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/17/2019 10:16 AM, effe iets anders wrote: If the amount is privately shared with the recipient, I could see some value in that (appreciation, as you mention). However, please also consider the flipside: it may make some people feel guilty about accepting the money, or they may take it as

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Rehman wasn't saying it's impossible, or even hard, to calculate. He was pointing out a potential psychological benefit that would accrue to some participants (and I can attest they exist) who may *not* have given much thought to the magnitude of the investment in awarding them a scholarship. As

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-18 Thread Deryck Chan
Interesting thoughts. I received a WMF Wikimania scholarship in 2017. WMF's travel agent didn't redact the prices when they sent me the flight tickets and accommodation that they gave me. So I could calculate the exact price tag of my scholarship (flight price + accommodation price + registration

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Kerry Raymond
Perhaps I am missing something in this conversation. The conference website clearly states what is funded by a scholarship (round trip travel, accommodation, registration): https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships#Scholarship_details The accommodation and registration costs will

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread effe iets anders
If the amount is privately shared with the recipient, I could see some value in that (appreciation, as you mention). However, please also consider the flipside: it may make some people feel guilty about accepting the money, or they may take it as a hint that they shouldn't accept the scholarship

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Gnangarra
impact isnt what an event costs its what it can achieve... the more we measure the dollar as a ghod the less we value the communities, and less we set ourselves up to achieve a real impact. We want to look at what a place can add not how cheaply the event can be, and regardless of the location

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Gabriel Thullen
Maybe we should give priority to countries who do not have a restrictive Visa policy. I guess that would rule out Europe, North America & Australia... Gabe On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:47 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Gnangarra, 17/04/19 13:23: > > What we'll end up with Wikimanias in 3rd

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gnangarra, 17/04/19 13:23: What we'll end up with Wikimanias in 3rd world countries because ts cheaper Is it? The budgets I've seen so far suggest otherwise, but we don't have full data. Federico ___ Wikimania-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Gnangarra
it's an ok idea but dollars spent doesnt equate to the value gained, and will vary between locations. What we'll end up with Wikimanias in 3rd world countries because ts cheaper not because of potential impact. That is something we already see. How do you measure impact when its about sharing of

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Rehman Abubakr, 17/04/19 12:10: Would it make sense to include the approximate total monetary value of the scholarship award (airfare, lodging, insurance, logistics, etc) within the scholarship award emails to the recipients? This is a good suggestion, although it might be hard to give an

[Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Rehman Abubakr
Hello, I was a former Wikimania scholarship recipient. To put it briefly, the Wikimania experience was something that I deeply value and will forever cherish. Somewhat sadly though, it is only after quite some years after Wikimania that I actually realised the value of the scholarship award