Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
I think we need to be very specific when we talk about advice to Wikimedians in Arab countries re going to Haifa. Encouraging Wikimedians who live in countries where it would be illegal to visit Israel to break the laws of the country they live in and attend such a public event strikes me as

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-06 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 07/06/2011 11:13 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Encouraging Wikimedians who live in countries where it would be illegal to visit Israel to break the laws of the country they live in and attend such a public event strikes me as inappropriate and unethical (lobbying to change a law is something

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Absolutely if someone does come from a country that has laws against their attending then we should do our best to keep them safe. I hope that my concerns turn out to be overcautious, but I do worry that we have some young, enthusiastic and occasionally naive editors, and we could have a fellow

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Visiting Israel is against the law in several Islamic countries, this is covered in http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Visas#Visas_for_Middle_Eastern_Countries_.28other_than_Egypt_and_Jordan.29 And was discussed earlier this year at

Re: [Wikimania-l] Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach

2011-07-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: The problem is that BDS (and others?) are explicitly acting against wikimania. I'd love to hear more reports on this. I think having a wikimania in haifa is actually going to be beneficial to all parties. :-)