Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-29 Thread cs 
I  am also  concerned about  the same people  repeatedly receiving  
scholarships, and this is by  no  way  of complaining  that I did  not  receive 
one.
As I  said last year however, I  believe it  is also inappropriate  to  inform  
applicants that  they  have been placed on  a short  list. Not only  does this 
raise false hopes, but  as many  applications are based on  the users' 
intentions to  submit a presentation, it  incurs a serious  waste of 
volunteers' time.

I  also  believe that  active Wikipedia users who  have financed their own 
participation  in  the conference multiple times should also  be given priority 
 consideration.

I  fully  understand that  the according  of scholarships is a complex and 
difficult  task. As  a former volunteer scholarship approvals committee member, 
I  think  I  have some experience in  these maters.

Not  one single Wikimania has been organised without  serious issues which  
often result in  attendees’ negative experience.
Perhaps the solution  would be to  have the entire concept  of Wikimania place 
in  the hands of an experienced volunteer task  force of former conference 
organizers, presenters,  and attendees who  will have learned from  previous  
errors and adminstartive organisational  hiccups. Funds should also  be made 
available for  face-to-face meetings for  the organisation of such  an 
important  event.

Having  a truly executive Board of Trustees rather than one that  simply  
rubber stamps the way  the WMF works, in  this and most  other areas, may  be a 
step  towards addressing  these issues.

Kudpung

> On 30, May2018, at 01:59, Gheorghe Zugravu  wrote:
> 
> On 29.05.2018 20:33, praveenp wrote:
>> I haven't seen any attempt to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired
>> from Wikimania to community through mailing list or wiki. Users
>> including me generally feel that community is being mocked on.
> 
> Hi to all,
> without being too original here, and following praveenp comments - would
> be good to encourage recipients of WMF scholarship to organize some type
> of Wikimania follow-up activities back in their groups or chapters.
> 
> I do believe that most of them are doing it anyway without any
> requirements from WMF, but if majority would  do it - we could have
> something as a ”permanent Wikimania” unfolding globally for a couple of
> months after the official Wikimania.
> 
> regards,
> /gheorghe
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As I have said last year, this is not a complaint that I didn't get
>> selected. This is not personal. This is about same persons receiving
>> Wikimania scholarship year after year repeatedly. I am just using
>> familiar user names from a familiar community, who got many repeated
>> scholarships.
>> 
>> Even after I argued that none of these 'permanent scholarship
>> receivers' sharing anything to community, I haven't seen any attempt
>> to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired from Wikimania to community
>> through mailing list or wiki. Users including me generally feel that
>> community is being mocked on.
>> 
>> I tried to keep myself away from local discussion about this, but
>> injustice is so clear. And nobody is ready to discuss it openly, most
>> probably because of the 'incompetency shaming' in almost all replies.
>> 
>> ~user:Praveenp
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday 29 May 2018 11:19 PM, Lodewijk wrote:
>> Given the context of the previous email you sent, I am assuming this
>> is more a complaint that you didn't get selected than that the other
>> two got selected. 
>> 
>> Similarly to the previous time you tried to have this discussion - I
>> feel uncomfortable to make this about individuals. 
>> 
>> Is there a way to give rejected applicants more feedback on which
>> factors play a main role, so that they can learn from it, especially
>> if there is something they could improve in their application. I would
>> add two sidenotes here though: it should only be provided on request
>> (no need to rub people's noses into something unnecessarily) and it
>> seems only viable at a level that can be easily extracted from the
>> process (high level). 
>> 
>> Perhaps someone who knows the scholarship committee's work intimately
>> could comment. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>> 
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:21 AM, praveenp > >> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the
>> tradition[1] of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two
>> permanent Wikimania attendees, by selecting both of them.
>> 
>> Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also.
>> 
>> [1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons every year" thread,
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html 
>> 
>> > >

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-29 Thread Gheorghe Zugravu 
On 29.05.2018 20:33, praveenp wrote:
> I haven't seen any attempt to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired
> from Wikimania to community through mailing list or wiki. Users
> including me generally feel that community is being mocked on.

Hi to all,
without being too original here, and following praveenp comments - would
be good to encourage recipients of WMF scholarship to organize some type
of Wikimania follow-up activities back in their groups or chapters.

I do believe that most of them are doing it anyway without any
requirements from WMF, but if majority would  do it - we could have
something as a ”permanent Wikimania” unfolding globally for a couple of
months after the official Wikimania.

regards,
/gheorghe



> Hi,
>
> As I have said last year, this is not a complaint that I didn't get
> selected. This is not personal. This is about same persons receiving
> Wikimania scholarship year after year repeatedly. I am just using
> familiar user names from a familiar community, who got many repeated
> scholarships.
>
> Even after I argued that none of these 'permanent scholarship
> receivers' sharing anything to community, I haven't seen any attempt
> to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired from Wikimania to community
> through mailing list or wiki. Users including me generally feel that
> community is being mocked on.
>
> I tried to keep myself away from local discussion about this, but
> injustice is so clear. And nobody is ready to discuss it openly, most
> probably because of the 'incompetency shaming' in almost all replies.
>
> ~user:Praveenp
>
>
> On Tuesday 29 May 2018 11:19 PM, Lodewijk wrote:
> Given the context of the previous email you sent, I am assuming this
> is more a complaint that you didn't get selected than that the other
> two got selected. 
>
> Similarly to the previous time you tried to have this discussion - I
> feel uncomfortable to make this about individuals. 
>
> Is there a way to give rejected applicants more feedback on which
> factors play a main role, so that they can learn from it, especially
> if there is something they could improve in their application. I would
> add two sidenotes here though: it should only be provided on request
> (no need to rub people's noses into something unnecessarily) and it
> seems only viable at a level that can be easily extracted from the
> process (high level). 
>
> Perhaps someone who knows the scholarship committee's work intimately
> could comment. 
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:21 AM, praveenp  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the
> tradition[1] of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two
> permanent Wikimania attendees, by selecting both of them.
>
> Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also.
>
> [1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons every year" thread,
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html
> 
>
> ~User:Praveenp
>
>
> On Tuesday 15 May 2018 11:19 PM, Ellie Young wrote:
> *
>
> All,
>
>
> Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the
> upcomingWikimania '18  which is being held July 18-22 in Cape Town,
> South Africa.
>
> WMF Scholarship Program:  135 people were offered and subsequently
> accepteda full or partial scholarship to attend.  The awardees are
> listed by usernames and the list is posted
> here:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholarsSubmissions:
>  The program committee has just finished its review anddeliberations. 
> Rejections and acceptance emails  have gone out in the past week.
>
> 95% of the accepted submissions are listed at:
>
>
> https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program
> 
>
>
> Plenaries and other sessions will be listed soon and a scheduled
> program  in June.
>
> Registration and accommodation information is now up for everyone
> at:https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registrationhttps://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/AccommodationIf
> you are a scholarship or other WMF funded attendee (staff,
> contractor,board, etc), please wait until you hear from the WMF with
> your registrationand accommodation instructions.If you have any
> questions about the conference, please emailwikimania-info at
> wikimedia.orgPlease
> spread the wordOn behalf of the Wikimania '18 Organizing Team
>
> Ellie YoungEvents Manager, Wikimedia
> Foundation​
>
> *




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[Wikimania-l] Room open for sharing on July 15th

2018-05-29 Thread Abbad Diraneyya 
Hi everyone,


I'll be arriving in Cape Town a day earlier than other scholarship recipients, 
on July 15th, and will be staying for one night in the nearby Stay Easy Cape 
Town City Bowl. The minimal rate for both single and double rooms seems to be 
the same. Would anyone be interested in sharing?


I'll be making the reservation in about 48 hours, so you'll need to inform me 
ASAP.


Best,

Abbad.
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-29 Thread Lodewijk 
Given the context of the previous email you sent, I am assuming this is
more a complaint that you didn't get selected than that the other two got
selected.

Similarly to the previous time you tried to have this discussion - I feel
uncomfortable to make this about individuals.

Is there a way to give rejected applicants more feedback on which factors
play a main role, so that they can learn from it, especially if there is
something they could improve in their application. I would add two
sidenotes here though: it should only be provided on request (no need to
rub people's noses into something unnecessarily) and it seems only viable
at a level that can be easily extracted from the process (high level).

Perhaps someone who knows the scholarship committee's work intimately could
comment.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:21 AM, praveenp  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the tradition[1]
> of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two permanent Wikimania
> attendees, by selecting both of them.
>
> Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also.
>
> [1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons every year" thread,
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html
>
> ~User:Praveenp
>
> On Tuesday 15 May 2018 11:19 PM, Ellie Young wrote:
>
>
>
>
> * All, Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the upcoming
> Wikimania '18  which is being held July 18-22 in Cape Town, South Africa.
> WMF Scholarship Program:  135 people were offered and subsequently accepted
> a full or partial scholarship to attend.  The awardees are listed by user
> names and the list is posted here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars
> Submissions:
>  The program committee has just finished its review and deliberations.
> Rejections and acceptance emails  have gone out in the past week. 95% of
> the accepted submissions are listed at:
> https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program
>  Plenaries and other
> sessions will be listed soon and a scheduled program  in June. Registration
> and accommodation information is now up for everyone at:
> https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration
> https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation
> If you are a
> scholarship or other WMF funded attendee (staff, contractor, board, etc),
> please wait until you hear from the WMF with your registration and
> accommodation instructions. If you have any questions about the conference,
> please email wikimania-info at wikimedia.org
> Please spread the
> word On behalf of the Wikimania '18 Organizing Team Ellie Young Events
> Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
> ​ *
>
>
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-29 Thread praveenp 

Hi,

Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the tradition[1] 
of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two permanent Wikimania 
attendees, by selecting both of them.


Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also.

[1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons every year" thread, 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html


~User:Praveenp


On Tuesday 15 May 2018 11:19 PM, Ellie Young wrote:

*

All,


Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the 
upcomingWikimania '18  which is being held July 18-22 in Cape Town, 
South Africa.


WMF Scholarship Program:  135 people were offered and subsequently 
accepteda full or partial scholarship to attend.  The awardees are 
listed by usernames and the list is posted 
here:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholarsSubmissions: 
 The program committee has just finished its review anddeliberations.  
Rejections and acceptance emails  have gone out in the past week.


95% of the accepted submissions are listed at:


https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program


Plenaries and other sessions will be listed soon and a scheduled 
program  in June.


Registration and accommodation information is now up for everyone 
at:https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registrationhttps://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/AccommodationIf 
you are a scholarship or other WMF funded attendee (staff, 
contractor,board, etc), please wait until you hear from the WMF with 
your registrationand accommodation instructions.If you have any 
questions about the conference, please emailwikimania-info at 
wikimedia.orgPlease 
spread the wordOn behalf of the Wikimania '18 Organizing Team


Ellie YoungEvents Manager, Wikimedia 
Foundation​


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