Re: [Wikimania-l] Disinformation meet-up - Sunday, August 18, 13:10-13:55

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

fascinating, I'll be there for sure!

dj

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:07 AM Leila Zia 
mailto:le...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
Hi all,

Over the past days, we have been hearing or have been part of small
group conversations about the topic of disinformation. If you're
interested to get a sense of these discussions or share your thoughts
with others about this topic, we (Research+Policy teams at Wikimedia
Foundation) invite you to attend a 45-min meet-up about this topic on
Sunday, 13:10-13:55, in Curie, Aula Magna. The meet-up page is at
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Meetups/Disinformation .

This is a very short meet-up and we will start on-time as a result.
Please plan for it if you intend to attend. :)

Leila

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Ostatnie artykuły:

  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of 
Quality of Information on 
Wikipedias<http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.  
2460–2470.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits of 
A-Hierarchical 
Organization<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> 
Journal of Organizational Change Management 29:  3.  361-378.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between 
Wikipedia and Academia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> 
Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 67:  7.  
1773-1776.
  *   Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on 
Wikipedia<http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> Feminist 
Review 113:  1.  103-108.
  *   Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities 
in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in 
Apache Software Foundation 
Projects<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>,
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Surströmming

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

Hell, yeah, count me in!

Dj "pundit"

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan 
mailto:deryckc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year 
[1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together?

(More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a 
big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with 
Surströmming.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Sad news

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

ng or disagreeing in public with
>>> a decision while only having part of the information can only make that job
>>> harder and/or harm individuals.
>>>
>>> If you have beef with the policy and how it is implemented, I suggest
>>> that you try to set up a meetup with the Trust & Safety team, and you can
>>> have a conversation with them about the broader policy. They can perhaps
>>> share some rough broader statistics as part of that. Otherwise, it is
>>> probably more appropriate to have this online discussion after the
>>> conference has concluded, based on the policy and practices as a whole, and
>>> not an individual case.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents...
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:15 AM Andy Mabbett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 19 July 2018 at 20:30, Romaine Wiki  wrote:
>>>
>>> > - People say I have been talking to loud
>>>
>>> > Please be aware I have a hearing problem and I do hear myself
>>>
>>> > Because of these complaints, it was demanded to step down as a
>>> volunteer
>>> > organiser for this year's Wikimania.
>>>
>>> As someone with family members who are profoundly hard of hearing and
>>> affected by tinnitus, I am sorry to learn that you have been
>>> discriminated against in this way.
>>>
>>> I hope that whoever is responsible for our safe spaces policy will
>>> ensure that this does not happen to you - or anyone else - again.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> @pigsonthewing
>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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*Ostatnie artykuły:*

   - Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of
   Quality of Information on Wikipedias
   <http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf>
*Journal
   of the Association for Information Science and Technology* 68:  10.
2460–2470.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits
   of A-Hierarchical Organization
   <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/wikimedia_governance.pdf> *Journal
   of Organizational Change Management *29:  3.  361-378.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between
   Wikipedia and Academia
   <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/bridging.pdf> *Journal of the
   Association for Information Science and Technology* 67:  7.  1773-1776.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia
   <http://www.crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/glass-ceiling.pdf> *Feminist
   Review *113:  1.  103-108.
   - Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities
   in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in
   Apache Software Foundation Projects
   
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0152976.PDF>
   , *PLoS ONE* 11:  4.  e0152976.
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Plugs in South Africa

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

In the hotel it is possible to use European and US plugs in rooms.

If you need to travel, you need to buy a local plug adapter (nothing I've
seen before), you can do so in any of the local stores practically at the
hotel's doorstep. I bought mine for about 100 Rand.

Best,

Dj "pundit"

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 07:59 Joe Sutherland  wrote:

> Hey all - asking this here since I imagine others may have the same
> question :)
>
> There are apparently three types of plug used in South Africa. Which of
> them is most widely used in Cape Town?
>
> thanks!
> Joe
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

Hi,

Just like Mykola, I attended Wikimania on different budgets. I believe I
received a scholarship once, I was also denied once at least.

The problem expressed in this topic, the way I see it, is that some people
may be picked from year to year basing on the same reasons (good proposal,
region, etc.). The concern expressed by some is that while every year these
merits may be true, the system leads to reinforcing the same cabal.

Except, it is my understanding that having previously attended Wikimania on
a scholarship is an explicit criterion for lowering one's chances to get
another one.

What is being postulated appears to be already reflected in the system. The
system, btw, is very far from perfect and I think it is safe to assume that
everyone agrees on that. Another issue, however, is whether we can prepare
a better system while not spending significantly more money/volunteer time.

I'd suggest looking for concrete solutions and ideas rather than
criticizing the outcomes.

Discussing particular people, and if they got sponsored repeatedly, does
not sound fair to me - it is guilting them into believing that the fact
they were nominated to come is something wrong.

Regarding shortlists - they surely are imperfect for various reasons, but
common for such programs, including e.g. Fulbright (a shortlisted grantee
may learn a/he is or is not going as late as two months prior to departure
to the US).

Best,

DJ "pundit"

PS for clarity - I'm coming to Wikimania on the Board's budget.

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:51 Mykola Kozlenko  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As a disclaimer: I have been in multiple roles, including receiving a WMF
> scholarship (2014, 2017 and 2018), being denied a WMF scholarship,
> attending Wikimania at my own expense and reviewing Wikimania scholarship
> applications for a chapter.
>
> From this experience I do not agree with the 'law of diminishing returns'
> or draconian measures. However, there are several trends:
>
> 1) First Wikimania is usually extremely motivating for almost everyone.
> Yet it is hard for a first-time Wikimania attendee to clearly explain the
> value of Wikimania for them before attending it. On one hand, these people
> are very likely to become more involved, start new projects, share new
> ideas etc. On the other hand, their scholarship applications will be most
> likely somewhat vague on their plans for Wikimania, and we have to take
> that into account.
>
> 2) Second and following Wikimanias are indeed less likely to bring that
> much additional motivation. However, there is huge added value as these
> attendees already know what to expect from and what to look for at
> Wikimania and in some ways make Wikimania itself more valuable. This
> includes sharing at Wikimania: participating at round tables, making
> presentations or posters etc. This also includes learning from Wikimania:
> asking the questions their community wants to ask, meeting the people who
> work on the topics they are interested in etc. This is not a diminishing
> return, but this requires to think of the added value you can bring to
> Wikimania.
>
> 3) For veteran Wikimedians attending a lot of times, Wikimania is also a
> place to meet people with whom they work online and share experience both
> ways. For example, we know people want to meet stewards to learn more about
> their work, and stewards want to meet users to get some insight on their
> role. This might be a sufficient motivation to attend at own expense if
> costs are not too prohibitive, but if this is the case (I don't think we
> have stewards in Sub-Saharan Africa for example) some of them will probably
> need scholarships. They will bring added value by their experience and role
> even if they might have attended in previous years.
>
> I don't think there is a simple solution but this definitely deserves a
> discussion either here or during the conference.
>
> Best regards,
> Mykola (NickK)
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" 
> Дата: 30 травня 2018, 10:38:09
>
> cs, 30/05/2018 10:16:
> > Is there any  other way  of investigating  these issues /without/
> > mentioning  the names of the scholarship awardees?
>
> Well, in theory we've been publishing the names of people who got a
> scholarship for a few years now, so it should be possible to make a
> complete list of repeat recipients in N years and then talk just about
> the number rather than names.
>
> I agree that repeat scholarships are a bad way to spend donor money, for
> the law of diminishing returns. We can disagree on how big the problem
> is, but we have sufficient evidence that it exists. In the past I've
> proposed and implemented severe penalties, but I'll clearly admit that I
> failed to effectively reform the review process.
>
> I personally agree with more draconian solutions which would set very
> clear expectations. A total ban on a scholarship for those who got one
> the previous year is a possibility. It would be as fair as 

Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] News regarding Wikimania 2018

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

many thanks for your hard work and - yay, this is really exciting!

dj

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ellie Young <eyo...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation,
>  I am pleased to announce that we have decided to explore having Wikimania
>  2018 located in Cape Town, South Africa. It would be hosted by a team
> <http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Wikimania_2018_team> led Douglas Scott with
> support of the Wikimedia ZA chapter and the WMF. The proposal will be
> further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming months, after which time we
> hope to confirm the award.
>
> This past Fall there were a total of four teams
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2018> that expressed interest
> in
> hosting in 2018.   We would also like to thank the people from South
> Africa, Armenia, Thailand, and Perth for all their effort in putting
> together materials for our consideration and their time spent discussing
> the possibilities.   As a volunteer-led movement, it is very  encouraging
> to have so many who want to support Wikimania.
>
> Please join us in congratulating the South African team.   If any of you
> would like to get involved or have questions/suggestions, please
> contact Douglas
> Scott  douglas.i.sc...@gmail.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Ellie Young
>
> WMF Events Manager
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimedia Foundation
>
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Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
The Wikipedian:
http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania Committee] Wikimania 2018

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Florence Devouard 
wrote:

>
> We have listened to a lot of community members, both those present at
> Wikimania 2016 and more widely, and decided overall that, given there was
> strong desire for holding Wikimania every year, we should continue to do
> so. This means that we need to pick a team and location for hosting
> Wikimania in July/August 2018 soon.


One word: wow!!!

dariusz
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

17.07.2016 2:32 AM "Pine W"  napisał(a):
>. I believe that Christophe is thinking along
> these lines for WMF staff time; I would
> suggest including affiliate staff, contractor,
> and volunteer time in the list of
> considerations. I consider volunteer time to
> be particularly precious.

That's pretty much why I pointed out to staff AND volunteer committment as
possibly being more of a bottleneck than just the finances (which are
important, too).

The question is not whether Wikimania is important and useful, the question
is how can we reduce the major overhaul on our most precious resources,
when keeping the value.

Dj
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

hi Ivan,


On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Ivan Martínez <gala...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Darius, I think that "motivations criris afterward" must also be
> considered in the planning and prior call for Wikimanía volunteers and can
> be avoided. In Mexico we always tell to people that we did not want them
> just for giving the best of themselves for three days around, but we wanted
> to keep them with Wikimedia mission. A month ago we broke a Guinness record
> and 60% of attendees were Wikimania volunteers. It is a matter of long
> preplanning, I think.
>

this is awesome! I think we also lack the ability to transfer such good
practices and paths to success across the movement, but this is really
impressive!

dj


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Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

my two cents (please, forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, or if I'm
repeating things that were said elsewhere or already addressed):

First, I don't think that an event every four years will have the
mobilizing and motivating role that an annual one does. Four years is
longer than a typical tenure of an editor (more or less, I'm just
recollecting). I understand that Christophe is referring to a 4-year event
 rhetorically, but just saying.

I see tremendous value in a global Wikimania every year.

In the same time, I've seen the following problems over the years, not
directly linked to the financial cost (which in the face of our relative
financial stability can be justified by the benefits, depending on how we
define them):
- huge WMF staff involvement (most Wikimanias run smoothly also thanks to
countless hours put in by the staff),
- huge volunteer local organizers involvement (in fact, my observation is
that many chapters organizing WIkimanias suffer from a motivation crisis
afterward).

Surely, we can have different surveys and other questionnaires. I doubt if
they will show anything else than that Wikimania is an incredibly valuable
event that comes at huge financial and human cost, though.

While we can get the money (at least for now), the human involvement cost
is something I would not dare to dismiss just by emphasizing the benefits
of Wikimania for the movement.

I'd be probably more interested in thinking out loud about how we can
change the format so that we reduce the human and money costs while keeping
the benefits. My understanding is that the proposal to have a global
WIkimania every two years and local events in between is actually one
attempt to address that. There can be others (and some have been discussed
in this thread, we also have some sensible benchmarks from other
organizations).

My concern is that we may end up with losing a lot of Wikimania benefits,
while not necessarily decreasing human or financial costs, but this is
something that we definitely need to discuss and consider carefully.

Instead of discussing whether we should have a Wikimania every year or not,
perhaps we should try to list and discuss the reasons why it is such a big
strain? If it is clear  that we can't afford it every year (because of the
human cost, probably more importantly than the finances), the decision to
break with the annual format will be a natural consequence of such an
analysis.

It could be useful to first have a really sensible and systematic list of
alternative paths.


best,

Dariusz Jemielniak ("pundit", a current Trustee).








On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Christophe Henner <chen...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> One goal :) you always side effects.
>
> If the goal is to be a community event why don't we don't we do a huge
> event every 4 years where we fly in every single editors? Instead of doing
> 4 Wikimanias.
>
> That is why setting expections and goal is key, so then we can make
> decisions.
>
> We're talking about financial ressources what about the time spent by
> volunteers?
>
> My point being, Wikimania is a great event and has costs and setting
> expectations will allow us to make better decisions. Perhaps, as Andrew
> says, will end up saying we should spend twice what we're spending because
> it is key or perhaps half of what we're spending.
>
>> ​
>> Is it a community event?
>
> Is it a knowledge sharing event?
> Is it an outreaching event?
>
>> Is it a way to reward people?
>>
>
> ​The answer to these four are yes
>
>- ​Yes its a community event, one that brings people together and
>empowers them
>- Yes it where we share  the lessons of our successes and failures​
>
>- Yes reaches out to local region, especially GLAM for them to see
>what can be achieved, it also attracts a media profile and put the ED,
>Borad and others within reach of potential sponsors
>- Yes the scholarship process has an element of reward for
>participation in that it requires people to be sufficiently active to be
>considered
>
> ​
>
>
>> ​
>>
>>
> On 10 July 2016 at 14:05, Christophe Henner <chen...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> So, as with everything, Wikimania is going through a process where we (as
>> à group) will define if it pushes our mission forward or not.
>>
>> First, WMF staff working so we can have the discussion with all the cards
>> in our hands. Which is not the case now.
>>
>> Second, what is Wikimania purposes? Right now I fear there is none
>> clearly define.
>>
>> Is it a community event?
>> Is it a knowledge sharing event?
>> Is it an outreaching event?
>> Is it a way to reward people?
>> ...
>>
>> One has to be define, a main one.
>>
>&g

Re: [Wikimania-l] Accommodation

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Ellie Young  wrote:

> The organizing team will be sending an email to all people who registered
> with accommodation packages in the next 48 hours with more information
> about check-in, registration, etc.
>
>
many thanks for this reassuring message!

dj
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Notifications of acceptance and rejection for "Critical issues" presentations

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

hi,

I have some comments as a person from Academia (and not involved in
Wikimania process in any way):

1. Short reviews are definitely not helping in addressing the frustration
of rejection, yet are quite common in academic peer reviewing, especially
for conferences.

2. Double blind peer review (not knowing who is reviewed, and not knowing
who reviews) is a standard in Academia, although some perceive it as
contributing to lack of responsibility (especially true in competitive
journal submissions).

3. Two reviewers per submission is absolutely on par with the conference
standards I'm used to. Sometimes there are three, but two is absolutely
acceptable (although a third opinion should be used if the two disagree too
much).

4. It could be useful to sensitize the reviewers that the main purpose of
the review is to help the author to do better next time.

5. All this is volunteer work. We should be, generally, grateful to
reviewers (but in the same time grateful to the contributors, too).

best,

dj

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Maarten Dammers <maar...@mdammers.nl> wrote:

> What kind of ridiculous process is this? This is all I got:
>
> ===
>
> --- REVIEW 1 -
> PAPER: 194
> TITLE: GLAM+Wikidata
> AUTHORS: Sandra Fauconnier and Maarten Dammers
>
> OVERALL EVALUATION: 8 (Very good)
>
> --- REVIEW ---
> 8
>
>
> --- REVIEW 2 -
> PAPER: 194
> TITLE: GLAM+Wikidata
> AUTHORS: Sandra Fauconnier and Maarten Dammers
>
> OVERALL EVALUATION: 6 (Rather interesting)
>
> --- REVIEW ---
> 6
>
> ==
>
> So only two people reviewed this? Who are these people? Why is this secret? 
> Last year I had 5 people reviewing my submission [1].
>
> Maarten
>
> [1] https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission_review/5
>
>
> Op 3-2-2016 om 23:15 schreef Andy Mabbett:
>
> I've just received feedback on one of my pitches saying, in part:
>
> "Bad boy Andy! This is supposed to be an anonymous review process, so
> starting your abstract with your own name, is not entirely fair."
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Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
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Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Fwd: Wikimania Scholarship

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

Hi Praveen,

I've been a steward, as well as the chair of the FDC for three years, so
you may assume I've been somewhat active in Wikimedia movement. I did not
receive a global scholarship neither (although I did eventually go, as I
got elected to the Board of Trustees).

I think it is clearly an assumption of bad faith to say that there is a
bias in scholarship committee. The criteria are explicit, and obviously
with limited resources a large number of excellent candidates, even with
accepted presentations, will not make it.

I would suggest you focus on Wikimedia activity, prepare a great
presentation for the next year as well as a compelling application, and try
again.

Best,

DJ pundit
31 lip 2015 10:07 praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com napisał(a):

 Hi,

 Please don't derail the actual topic of the thread. I really didnt assume
 such an interpretation from quoting his words. Whenever I asked about the
 issue to anybody, I generally got such a reply, which I want to avoid here.

 If it is need to start a new thread, I will do that. :-)

 But please tell me why some people regularly get scholarships atleast
 since 2008, active (in Wikimedia projects / outreach programms) users never
 get a chance to share their experience and problems at Wikimania.

 Regards,
 Praveen. P


 On Friday 31 July 2015 12:40 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:

 Praveen,

 Whether there was anything personal or confidential in Gerard's private
 emails to you is for him to say not for you to decide.

 Regards

 Jonathan


 On 31 Jul 2015, at 05:59, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Osmar Valdebenito,
 No offense was intended :-(. For prominent communities that may be true,
 but could you check list of users who got scholarship from Malayalam
 community.


 Amir Ladsgroup,

 1) As you can see there is nothing confidential or personal in Gerards
 reply. He just gave a summary of known practices.
 2) Users are not asking for trophies. They also want to participate
 Wikimania and share and get the experience.
 3) Wikimedia projects are community processes. I simply don't understand
 how granting scholarship to same persons again and again for five or six
 years help that process. I also dont understand that communication and
 sharing of multiple viewpoints, ideas and practices is possible in the
 above scenario.
 4) Yes; If clicking tick marks in translatewiki on some 500 string in 5
 minutes before applying for scholarship (as reviewing the translation) is a
 prominent contribution.

 In the beginning every body treated equal, we have multiple participants
 (with understandable reasons) for Wikimania. It started to shrink later and
 now people plainly believe granting scholarship is an act of favoritism. I
 also want to prove I am wrong.

 Regards,
 Praveen. P
 User:Praveenp

 PS: Mail striped because mailman held my previous reply claiming  Message
 body is too big:

 On Friday 31 July 2015 05:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:

 There are several issues I want to comment:
 1-First of all. Do you have permission from Gerard to publish your
 conversation? Maybe there is something confidential in it, Did you care to
 check?
 2- Scholarship is not award or trophy, bear that in mind.
 3- People are expected to come here and learn, communicate, etc. that's
 why a same person gets scholarship,
 4- No one's wife got scholarship because of being wife of someone. They
 probably are prominent contributors too.
 5- Check my first question and answer that. (Emphasizing)

 Best

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM Osmar Valdebenito 
 b1mbo.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry, but when I read No regular Wikimedian get any scholarship, I
 stopped reading.
 It is not only a lie, but also very unfair to all the extremely great
 Wikimedians that attended and made great contributions in Wikimania, and
 also the volunteers that have helped now and in the past reviewing and
 evaluated thousand of applications in the Scholarship Committee.


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Re: [Wikimania-l] Q: Where to get Lucha Libre mask

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

I saw some right around the corner, towards Juarez subway station
19 lip 2015 2:56 PM Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com napisał(a):

 There were a lot of stands selling masks outside of Arena México (20
 minute walk from the Hilton) when we were there on Friday, but I suppose
 they might only be there when there's a lucha libre event at the arena.
 On Jul 19, 2015 14:46, Takashi OTA supertakot+wikima...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 Quick question: does anyone know where I can get a Lucha Libre mask?
 I visited the night market in front of the Hilton, but failed to find
 one.
 Neither does the gift shop in Hilton.

 Thanks in advance,

 --Takashi

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Monday Wiki Loves Pyramids trip - make sure you and friends are signed up!

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

for those who decide not to go to the pyramids (e.g. because of the timing
concerns), a couple of us are going on a food tour (a total cost of 66 USD
including tax, schedule: 12-16:30).
http://saboresmexicofoodtours.com/en/calendario/

cheers,

dj

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Kenrick kenric...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 May I know what time we will arrive back in the hotel?

 Thanks

 On 19 July 2015 at 22:20, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi fellow Wikimaniacs,

 Please sign up this morning if you plan on going, as we are going to
 finalize the number of participants with the concierge this afternoon. Tell
 your friends, including your Swedish ones!


 https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Pyramids_Meetup#Visit_to_the_Pyramids_at_7_am_on_20_of_July

 Thanks,
 Richard
 (User:Pharos)
 Wikimedia NYC

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Ethnography of Wikipedia (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
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Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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