Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
I've been stewing for awhile to sort out my thoughts about the search for a new department lead for CE. Since I might be busy on Friday, and the choice of the new department is likely a topic of broad public interest, I'll share some thoughts here: 1. This is a highly public community facing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
I am bumping this thread because I am very much interested in the questions about the nature of the "new, open approach" to Board member recruiting that led to the situation with Arnnon. Also, it is regrettably difficult to avoid asking questions about the extent to which Boryana knew of Arnnon's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
My impression of this whole situation with the Knight Foundation is that the WMF's strong tendency toward closed-door and closed-loop processes are hurting WMF more than helping it. If WMF had been transparent with the community about this situation in the first place and a consultation with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

2016-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you for writing in your personal capacity so the other things need not have any consideration. Thank you for a profile that reads American. Thank you for continuing with the sniping at the WMF. What is your point or is that personal? How do you help things move in the right direction?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
Dariusz, thanks for continuing to engage here. Besides the good questions that others have asked, I'll add a few: 1. If the Knowledge Engine is such an important project, why is it not mentioned in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16? 2. I realize that as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread attolippip
Oh, Siko... I am really sorry to see this letter of yours. But I am truly grateful for all your support and understanding. In wikiworld being awfully far in real life does not matter that much, so I have always felt that you are near... Thank you Warm regards, antanana Wikimedia Ukraine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland
Dear Siko, What a shame you are leaving! It has been a real pleasure knowing you and working with you. I wish you all the best for the future and I hope our paths will cross again. Hartelijke groet, Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wmfall] CTO Search | Status

2016-02-11 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi all, Earlier this week Amy Elder -- our head of recruiting -- has shared a preview of the CTO role with the staff and I would like to share it with you early as well, before the job description is posted and the process starts. I am very grateful to our technical staff and leaders here at the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Lisa Gruwell
Hi All- The funder has agreed to share the Knowledge Engine grant agreement. Here are the links to that document and other relevant communication about the Discovery team's work: 1) Knowledge Engine Grant Agreement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Pine, On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Pine W wrote: > My impression of this whole situation with the Knight Foundation is that > the WMF's strong tendency toward closed-door and closed-loop processes are > hurting WMF more than helping it. If WMF had been transparent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Program Capacity & Learning consultation

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
I just want to say that, from my perspective, Rosemary and her team are doing an exemplary job with their community consultation regarding their planning for the next fiscal year. The PC consultation is a welcome breath of fresh air, and I would encourage other departments to think about adapting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Pine W
Lisa, thank you. I am getting the sense from the available information about this grant that the Knight Foundation is well intentioned. My concerns here, and I think that the concerns from other community members, are primarily related to WMF's handling of this situation. I for one would be happy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Anthony Cole
It was obviously evolving as the project moved from initial conceptualisation to the establishment of the Discovery team but, nevertheless, a clear, meaningful statement of the vision for the project (as it was imagined at the time) would have been appropriate when the team was put together. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > Did you notice MZMcBride's recent link, demonstrating that then-Executive >> Director Sue Gardner asserted exactly the opposite, explicitly as policy? >> To my knowledge, there has not been any new policy articulated

[Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Siko Bouterse
Dear friends and colleagues, I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff capacity for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at the Wikimedia Foundation. Transparency, integrity, community and free knowledge remain deeply important to me, and I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:11 PM, SarahSV wrote: > >> > Dariuz, when I first heard about this, I understood it to mean that the > Foundation was seeking to fix the Wikimedia search function, which is > really very poor. But this seems to be a proposal to create an entirely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread SarahSV
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > If we are to survive the next 10 years as the top 10 website, we should > focus externally more, and start building more stuff that our readers care > about. I totally agree that WMF has failed on many occasions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Pine W wrote: > > I would respond by saying that openness is a value in the Wikimedia > movement and that our values should not be for sale at any price. Policy > and practice should be that documents for all restricted grants received by >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Pete Forsyth
Dariusz, Thank you for engaging on this. I believe the important thing now is to understand what happened specifically with the Knowledge Engine grant; but you make a claim about a more general policy that I think should be addressed. (I will address KE issues separately.) On Thu, Feb 11, 2016

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Steven Crossin
Wow Siko. This comes as a massive surprise. It was a pleasure working with you on dispute resolution on my time as a Wikimedia Fellow. I'll always remember the support you gave me and how I grew as a result. I consider you a great friend and I'll miss you a lot. I wish you all the best in your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks for sharing, always interesting to see these processes in detail. On Feb 11, 2016 19:53, "Anthony Cole" > I fully support both improving internal search and later offering the > reader the option of including reliable outside sources in their search. > > And I support the ED's right -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Wow. What a loss. I will never forget your boundless enthusiasm for this movement, and I loved our semi-regular walking meetings, Siko. I know you will do so much for wherever you end up. What a tremendous asset you will be to them! Your gifts are tremendous - almost as big as your heart.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread SarahSV
Siko, I'm very sorry to see this. You were a strong supporter of women on Wikipedia and of improved community harmony. It was a pleasure to work with you on the grant application that led to the Ally Skills Workshops. I wish you all the very best. Sarah On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Steven

[Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Liam Wyatt
Another day, another "big name" in the movement is leaving... So sad that it is coming to this. It has been an honour and a prividge working with you Siko. You've a pillar of integrity, insight and good-humour through so many different projects. As Hunter S Thomson wrote - "buy the ticket, take

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Sam Klein
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > It has been an honour and a privilege working with you Siko. You've a > pillar > of integrity, insight and good-humour through so many different projects. > As Hunter S Thomson wrote - "buy the ticket, take the ride" - and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread aude
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Siko Bouterse wrote: > Dear friends and colleagues, > > I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff capacity > for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at the > Wikimedia Foundation. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
11.02.2016 10:23 PM "SarahSV" napisał(a): > >> >> > ​Hi ​ > Dariusz, > > ​T​ > he grant application doesn't restrict the search engine to Wikimedia projects. It says that the "Knowledge Engine by Wikipedia [is a] system for discovering reliable and trustworthy public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Risker
We are really going to miss you, Siko. You've done amazing things in leading all of these various programs and developing both the programs and a talented cadre of staff members. You're leaving behind a great legacy, and I for one thank you very much for that. I know you'll be brilliant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-11 Thread SarahSV
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:11 PM, SarahSV wrote: > >> >>> >> Dariuz, when I first heard about this, I understood it to mean that the >> Foundation was seeking to fix the Wikimedia search

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

2016-02-11 Thread Sydney Poore
Dear Siko, Thank you for your enthusiasm and for being brave and bold in the way you support the community and staff. You will be missed. Warm regards, Sydney On Feb 11, 2016 8:25 PM, "Siko Bouterse" wrote: > Dear friends and colleagues, > > I’ve had the amazing

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Africa 2015 community picture vote

2016-02-11 Thread Florence Devouard
Hello Wiki Loves Africa 2015 will celebrate 4 winning pictures. 3 have already been selected by the jury. The 4th is to be selected by the community at large. Please help us decide and vote here : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015/Community_Prize_Selection