Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

2017-04-08 Thread Nataliia Tymkiv
Hello Rogol, hello all, Frankly speaking, I have not personally seen your question on the talk page of the Committee. And my announcement followed the example of the first announcement from 2016 [1], mentioning the usernames, not names of real people. So I actually did not know this is even an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi SJ, thanks. The document is here https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F the table at the bottom, and a short English summary at the very bottom, but the table is still in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

2017-04-08 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Still absolutely no need to do this as a requirement. Adrian Raddatz On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > Nataliiya, > > Thank you for that information. It seems that you are happy to introduce > the new members of this Committee to the community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

2017-04-08 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Nataliiya, Thank you for that information. It seems that you are happy to introduce the new members of this Committee to the community under pseudonyms. I suggested at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee back in July 2016 that, considering that this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "News Integrity Initiative" at CUNY

2017-04-08 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
On a related note, the Foundation Blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/04/07/misinfocon-fake-news/ proudly announces that "the Wikimedia Foundation joined a handful of media organization at the MIT Media Lab to lend their expertise at MisInfoCon". That's certainly good to hear, but a little short

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > [...] On the Russian Wikivoyage, all of our active partipants produced > a document, to be told by the facilitator that this is not what WMF wants > to see. > This does not strike me as a description of what a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Yaroslav: thanks for these thoughts. Could you link to the RU Voyage document? How was it different from what a facilitator expected? Let's see if we can all make a better central discussion space, and make brainstorming by individual-contributors more satisfying & w/fast feedback loops from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEADLINE EXTENDED: Wikimania 2017 call for submissions

2017-04-08 Thread Joseph Seddon
REMINDER: Deadline for submitting presentations, panels, roundtables and workshops to Wikimania is *April 10*. You have TWO days remaining. The deadline for posters and birds-of-a-feather sessions remains *May 15*. Please see below for the call for submissions for Wikimania, and submit your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

2017-04-08 Thread Gnangarra
I beg to differ with Anders final comment; > ​ > And our standpoint is that we as Wikipedians should not be first in > introducing new use of language but wait until it has become mainstream (if > it ever will be)​ ​I have no issue within our policies and projects being a leader the use of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

2017-04-08 Thread
Thanks for the French experience. :-) You may not have picked up on the specific comment about the French Wikipedia a few days ago in the general Wikimedia Commons Village Pump discussion:[1] "* Total Support. This is not only useful to the trans community, but in the case of French, it is more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Tomasz, may be the Polish Wikipedia is an exception, I do not know. I have the strategy discussions on the English Wikipedia, Wikidata, Meta, and Russian Wikivoyage on my watchlists, and I posted on all of them. On the first three I do not see any discussion happening (and on Wikidata, Szymon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2017-04-08 12:44 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter : > Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling. > May be we will have another opportunity. > > However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a > failure. > > Why? On at least several

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Chico Venancio
Yaroslav, What did you wish to see in the Track B discussions that was absent thus far? Have you read the strategy portal? Specifically the process page and the audit of past processes? To doom a process from its beginning stages to failure on an unknown reason is, at least, extremely hasty.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling. May be we will have another opportunity. However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a failure. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Jane Darnell
I agree with everything Gnangarra said. As I recall, previous strategy discussions on meta involved fewer people later in the game with fewer documents produced than what we have now. That said, I think there was a pretty good representation of chapters at the Berlin conference and depending on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 Thread Gnangarra
I was in Berlin and participated in the strategy track for the three days. The process was very open used open space approach such that at the end of days 1 & 2 all I could say is that its been an interesting and thought provoking sessions because that was how the process was running. At the end

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

2017-04-08 Thread Florence Devouard
A couple of weeks ago, I was asked - in my capacity of meta admin - to change the phrasing of a site notice on meta, meant to call for participation to the month of Francophonie. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Centralnotice-template-WikiFranca_MC17=prev=16482259 The