Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
> When you look at the > team of Amir, they are doing splendid work and I do salute their latest > effort where they now support collation for a language ahead of its support > in standards. > I agree. I think their work is splendid too. I’m glad to hear you share that view. Thank you both,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Anna Stillwell
Gerard, In line. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I have some notions about language and if anything there are some things > that we can do technically but with over 280 languages technique will not > serve us well. At best it will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Anna Stillwell
Rogol, The statement, “the Foundation and all the external consultants advising it on this exercise are all US-based“, is not accurate. There are four streams of research and discovery in this phase: - organized groups - on-wiki - experts - new voices I’d like to introduce this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have some notions about language and if anything there are some things that we can do technically but with over 280 languages technique will not serve us well. At best it will be a partial solution. When you look at the team of Amir, they are doing splendid work and I do salute their latest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Anna Stillwell
Gerard, Happy Sunday to you. I hope you're well. I'm curious... have you heard one of the ideas emerging in discussions is "beyond the encyclopedia"... an idea that includes and goes beyond the encyclopedia? You'd likely resonate with the idea. It describes the multiplicity of what we already

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-25 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 24/06/2017 à 13:10, Rogol Domedonfors a écrit : This Board was fomed in 2007 to advise the Wikimedia Foundation, and was required to be renewed annually. No resolution was made to do so in 2015, so by the beginning of 2016 it had lapsed. This status is reflected at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-25 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Craig Thanks for your thoughtful response. There are two gneral issues around the Advisory Board that members of the Community might be interested in. Firstly, it seems that after having lapsed in 2015, the Advisory Board has been reconstituted, but there has been no announcement to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation

2017-06-25 Thread Craig Newmark
Rogol, I'm on the advisory board, and actively involved in related issues, but have hesitated posting in respect for Community traditions (as I learn them) and also, as a large effort emerges in journalism regarding reliable sources. Specifically, the latter involves the News Integrity Initiative

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You do not provide arguments so it is an opinion. Having said that, I did not say that the attention for the English Wikipedia did not serve English Wikipedia well. It did. Your opinion can be easily translated in "we do not care and do not need to care". What I am saying is that English

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania registration & hotel: register today!

2017-06-25 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi all, Reminder! Register today for Wikimania and for the conference hotel, if you plan to stay there. The early registration deadline is July 10 and the deadline for booking accommodation in the conference hotel (where the sessions will be located) is June 30th: next week! details:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Gnangarra
I'd wouldnt call the current practice detrimental to our mission, nor would see english wikipedia as a bad influence for without en.wp we would have no global recognition, no movement, no funding and no need for a strategy process. English language communities are also our most diverse projects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Now that we apparently all agree that this is a diversity issue. An issue where the current practice is detrimental to our mission, what are we going to do about it? Just accepting it means that we do not take our mission seriously. Thanks, GerardM On 25 June 2017 at 08:45, Rogol

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners [including non-techies!]

2017-06-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
I'd like to specially praise *the Turkish volunteer User:Basak* for creating the first *complete* translation of the subtitles for this 3-hour tutorial. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:A_Gentle_Introduction_to_Wikidata_for_Absolute_Beginners_(including_non-techies!).webm.tr.srt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-25 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
This is not surprising, when the Foundation and all the external consultants advising it on this exercise are all US-based. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hej, > > Gerard made some very important points. My observation (not an opinion :-) > is