Re: [Wikimedia-l] what made me happy this week

2017-10-27 Thread quiddity
My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics. (The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity

Re: [Wikimedia-l] what made me happy this week

2017-10-27 Thread quiddity
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant content. Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.

[Wikimedia-l] what made me happy this week

2017-10-27 Thread James Salsman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150=Eijc2tGe-zM ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread James Salsman
I am also withholding my endorsement until the assertion that Mandarin could overtake English is corrected, and I endorse the "harmony is not unison" description of views other than mainstream, towards fringe. On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:22 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

2017-10-27 Thread James Salsman
Hi Erik, I get the feeling you would question my identity if I didn't follow up by asking you whether they asked you to endorse the possibility that Mandarin could eclipse English? Best regards, James On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of WMF Chief Product Officer

2017-10-27 Thread Jnanaranjan Sahu
Great News. Congratulations Toby. On 28-Oct-2017 00:42, "Samuel Klein" wrote: > Fantastic. > > On Oct 27, 2017 3:09 PM, "Katherine Maher" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I’m happy to let you know that the Foundation has concluded our search > for > > a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of WMF Chief Product Officer

2017-10-27 Thread Samuel Klein
Fantastic. On Oct 27, 2017 3:09 PM, "Katherine Maher" wrote: > Hi all, > > I’m happy to let you know that the Foundation has concluded our search for > a Chief Product Officer (CPO). Our own Toby Negrin will transition from > acting as interim lead of the Audiences

[Wikimedia-l] Appointment of WMF Chief Product Officer

2017-10-27 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi all, I’m happy to let you know that the Foundation has concluded our search for a Chief Product Officer (CPO). Our own Toby Negrin will transition from acting as interim lead of the Audiences department to this permanent and updated role. Please join me in congratulating Toby! Toby was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 27/10/2017 à 16:57, Nicole Ebber a écrit : Hello again, I have taken the unclear wording from the meta page. As I said, no one will be excluded from phase 2 conversations. I would also like to point out that this endorsement page is intended to work like a show of approval and support

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hello again, I have taken the unclear wording from the meta page. As I said, no one will be excluded from phase 2 conversations. I would also like to point out that this endorsement page is intended to work like a show of approval and support instead of an RfC. We are asking people to support

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Berkman Klein Center: Will Wikipedia exist in, 20 years?

2017-10-27 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Anyone know if it's possible to add comment in subtitles, I tried with a "#" at the beginning of line, but it looks like it will just crash the parser. I didn't found anything in the documentation . Moreover, editing raw text in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Peter Southwood
Hi Gerhard, Are you addressing me? Your reply is to my email, Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:09 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Peter Southwood
Hi Nicole. That is not the message we are getting from the endorsement page. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Ebber Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:50 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Peter Southwood
That may be so, but it is there I cannot judge by intentions when actions are what I must deal with. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lodewijk Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:21 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Well, it might be clear in your mind Yaroslav, but Fæ point is that is not clear at all in the answer of Nicole. So she might seize the question to make it perfectly clear or just let it in a fuzzy state which would give more credit to your point of view. Thus said, while I do share concerns

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Thank you Yaroslav. I copied the matching section to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement/Concerns I also added a link to that page in the endorsement page, and began some sorting, including support/neutral/oppose for individuals (groups only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread
Gerard, apart from you, has anyone written "no: this is wrong and I will do everything in my power to see this plan dismissed for the crap I think it is" Unless you are using Trumpist tactics of spreading fake news to deride and smear others, please source any controversial quotes. Thanks Fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You get it backwards; Yaroslav indicates that he EXPECTS not to be heard. It does not follow that what people say will not be noticed and it does not follow that they may not be involved in the process of realising the strategy. The option to be heard has nothing to do with the position on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I think the situation is pretty clear, and we have already many statements exactly about this point. The dissenters are being, and will continue being simply ignored. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Fæ wrote: > Sorry Nicole, what you have written is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread
Sorry Nicole, what you have written is ambiguous. Will all affiliates and individual volunteers be able to be full participants in later discussion on the strategy, to exactly the same level as those that endorsed phase one? Saying that nobody gets "banned" does not ensure an open process. I.e.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hi all, By endorsing, people and organizations state that they agree that the direction is the right way for us as a movement to move forward, and that they commit to participate in phase 2 conversations in good faith. And in phase 2, we will discuss how to fill this direction with life. The next

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Lodewijk
I'm not sure how I missed that strongarm-statement ("the endorsement is also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 discussions"). I'm confident that this is a typo of a kind. It does not match with how I know the people in charge of this process. Lodewijk On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread
On 26 Oct 2017 09:00, "Nicole Ebber" wrote: Dear Wikimedians, Today marks the final milestone of phase 1 of our movement strategy process. Over the past eight months, many of you, of your peers, colleagues, partners and friends have contributed to an endeavor that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Peter Southwood
It would be interesting to know who made the decision that persons who do not endorse phase I will be excluded from further involvement in the process, and how that decision is justified in the context of Wikimedia project traditions. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l