Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is not free?

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
From my experience the re-users barely read any of the licenses and already expect every of our images to be free beer. Sometimes i looked where my images and articles are used and i noticed quite a lot of copyright violations. I took my time to mail the re-users and informed them what they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is not free?

2012-07-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I have no time to find the page, but the logo of Wikipedia may be used for no commercial use. So it's not public domain, but has a sufficient freedom of use. The question is to understand what is the feeling of the normal people in internet. So, in this specific case I would really associate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread Delirium
On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources? It would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly arguments would never arise. Thousands of apposite criticisms of Wikipedia would never arise. These are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources? It would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly arguments would never arise.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread Svip
On 4 July 2012 01:38, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Well, if I were suddenly named dictator of Wikipedia, I'd probably suggest that a recent event namespace be created, where popular media were acceptable sources, and make them verbotten in mainspace. Mainspace articles might

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMIT bulletin no. 33: June 20, 2012

2012-07-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The new editorial team has produced a new issue of Wikimedia Italia's bulletin, shortened for the sake of clarity to the public at large. English version follows and is available on the wiki http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Wikimedia_news/numero_33/en Please let us know if you find this format

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread John Vandenberg
Or a template at the top. 'This article relies on newspaper sources...please contribute better sources or tag with notability if you cant find any better sources.' P.s. This offtopic thread should be on Wikipedia lists as its not about the movement in general. On Jul 4, 2012 6:13 PM, Svip

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs your help

2012-07-04 Thread John Andersson
Hi Lodewijk, I like your ideas, especially the one about Wiki Loves Food which I think could be a really good mini-contest. However, this year I hope that you will share your expertise with WLPA! :-) You have a really good point about the exams in May and I have been thinking hard about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is not free?

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
The current definition is very protective and incompatible with free licenses. I can't take a free licensed photo and put the Wikipedia logo in the background. It's not because the Logo can't be used, it's because i can't release the the end result under a free license. If i would create such

[Wikimedia-l] [OT] ACTA rejected by EU parliament

2012-07-04 Thread Samuel Klein
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18704192 SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OT] ACTA rejected by EU parliament

2012-07-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 July 2012 19:22, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18704192 Dunno about OT. The public protests across Europe followed from the SOPA blackout. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OT] ACTA rejected by EU parliament

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 04.07.2012 20:52, schrieb David Gerard: On 4 July 2012 19:22, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18704192 Dunno about OT. The public protests across Europe followed from the SOPA blackout. - d. Not really. The first big protests started at the end

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OT] ACTA rejected by EU parliament

2012-07-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tobias Oelgarte, 05/07/2012 00:28: Not really. The first big protests started at the end of the year 2011, while the blackout was from 18th to 19th January 2012. But in some way it might have helped to strengthen the protests and to prolong the duration. This says something about it.