Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski
Hi Sam, first of all, let me thank you for your involvement in this—it's appreciated! Other comments follow in-line. By the time we see a final-draft plan in April/May, there is already little leeway for significant change. This probably means that there is something wrong with the process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plans of the Wikimedia entities: could you link your strategy, please?

2013-04-23 Thread Craig Franklin
Excellent idea Ziko! I have added the WMAU strategic plan ( http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Strategic_plan ) to the list on Meta also. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 23 April 2013 09:21, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great idea. [2] I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic plans of the Wikimedia entities: could you link your strategy, please?

2013-04-23 Thread Fae
On 22 April 2013 23:22, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy Would you like to make a link to your strategy document? I added a link to WMUK's five year strategy document, however I am wondering if this might work even better if the links appeared

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Creating a Wikimania Committee

2013-04-23 Thread Orsolya Gyenes
Hi, It's already there: - Provide advice (on request) with regards to other large-scale Wikimedia events to the community and movement bodies. *~Orsolya* 2013/4/23 Butch Bustria bu...@wikimedia.org.ph Hi, I suggest Wikimedia Conference Coordination Committee (WC3) so that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: [WCA][Governance] Training for chapter and thematic org. board members

2013-04-23 Thread Samuel Klein
As you say, the WMF and a few chapters do have such an induction process already. Perhaps we can coordinate those existing processes with whatever is developed for the rest of the affiliates. For instance, there might be a few of these workshops each year; at least one of them at Wikimania. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Leslie Carr
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Hi Sam, first of all, let me thank you for your involvement in this—it's appreciated! Other comments follow in-line. By the time we see a final-draft plan in April/May, there is already little leeway for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello again, A few comments inline: Leslie Carr writes: As someone who works for the foundation and has had to deal with budget issues in engineering (though this is my personal opinion) the budget process is already incredibly long, drawn out, and stressful. This is a problem that we should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Nathan
The necessity of public comment on a detailed budget is overblown. I don't think the Foundation should dedicate a lot of time or resources into getting input into the budget development process from members of the community. This is one area where expertise and the ability to dedicate a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Steven Walling
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, Nathan wrote: The necessity of public comment on a detailed budget is overblown. I don't think the Foundation should dedicate a lot of time or resources into getting input into the budget development process from members of the community. This is one area where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consultation opened for Bylaws change

2013-04-23 Thread Lodewijk
Thank you for taking this step! I am glad that the board now involves the community in its bylaw changing process. Lodewijk 2013/4/22 Risker risker...@gmail.com Just in case others had problems with the links (thanks gmail...)

[Wikimedia-l] The Human Hacking Field Guide - a story about open source and open content hackerdom - What's in it for you and how you can help.

2013-04-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
The Human Hacking Field Guide - a story about open source and open content hackerdom - What's in it for you and how you can help. Hi all, you will hopefully enjoy reading this story:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consultation opened for Bylaws change

2013-04-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lodewijk, 23/04/2013 18:11: Thank you for taking this step! I am glad that the board now involves the community in its bylaw changing process. +1 What appears obvious in bylaws changes, never is. Vacancies, in particular, are among the trickiest matters to deal with in bylaws; I left a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 23/04/2013 17:58: I fully agree. My team, Editor Engagement Experiments, was one of the few submitted to the FDC for approval.[1] We got almost no substantive questions or comments on the Talk page or mailing lists from community members about our budget. [...] That the FDC

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski
Steven, I am actually disappointed to see you bring such an example to back up a thesis that — that's the impression I'm getting — the community cannot provide valuable feedback on budget-related matters. The experience that I have is quite opposite: as far as I am aware, community members

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
from my point of view, it would be really great if there was more feedback from the community on the FDC proposals, but I also understand that reading detailed proposals is not necessarily something that many active members have the necessary time for. I think it is clear that the community can

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours about upcoming account creation and login redesigns

2013-04-23 Thread Steven Walling
Hey all, As you might know, the Editor Engagement Experiments team spent several weeks in 2012-13 testing changes to the account creation page, aiming to make it easier for new editors to join our projects.[1] Soon you'll see wider announcements on-wiki and on the blog about the soft launch of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Nathan
Exactly. The community is involved in the strategic planning process, and has the opportunity to review the spending and changes over time, both through the visible elements of annual planning and the annual reports. In addition, there is (obviously) pretty robust discussion here when questions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread Samuel Klein
It's good to see so much interest in this thread. The purpose of transparency is not feedback. It is valuable in its own right. It reduces surprise and supports planning discussions elsewhere in the movement. And any information shared in a lookahead document would be at a high level; not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-23 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: It's good to see so much interest in this thread. The purpose of transparency is not feedback. It is valuable in its own right. It reduces surprise and supports planning discussions elsewhere in the movement. I do